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Re: Starship's Fourth Flight Test [video]

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Post by AnthonyMouse » Fri, Jun 07, 2024, 6:21 AM UTC

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #97

AnthonyMouse wrote: post #83

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The CEO of SpaceX owns Twitter.

I'm aware. What does SpaceX gain from the exclusivity?

There are hypothetically advantages. The affiliated company would be more inclined to promote them, so they could get in front of some people who otherwise might not have seen it. Conversely, a company that competes with the affiliated company might be inclined to do the opposite to avoid promoting a competitor's businesses, so the countervailing costs of exclusivity are lower for their company in particular.

They also might be wary of platforms like YouTube which host "Elon Musk wants to give you Bitcoins" scam videos, which Twitter has a stronger incentive to be aggressive in removing because of who owns it, and then there is value to the company in being able to say "none of the YouTube videos are legitimate, you can only see it here."

Re: Starship's Fourth Flight Test [video]

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Post by enslavedrobot » Fri, Jun 07, 2024, 7:26 AM UTC

pclmulqdq wrote: post #128

enslavedrobot wrote: post #125

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You do not rely on drag to deorbit a stainless steel 10 story building partially covered in heat shielding in a random location. They deliberately selected a suborbital trajectory with a velocity that matched orbital reentry... See 1:20 of this video. Everyone who actually follows SpaceX knows this. You are confidently and totally wrong. https://youtu.be/LOerY66mrPc?si=5FUAARFQ3Z98eqjb

All I see is a video from after IFT-3 that parrots SpaceX's post-hoc rationalization about the fact that their craft could not reach orbital velocity. If you look at the GAO report on Artemis, one of the big issues they mentioned is that Starship has not proven that it can reach orbit, and SpaceX is very interested in making sure that the narrative is that it can and did. It was only after the fact that they said tha…

"video from after IFT-3"

How many times can you be so stridently wrong about something before you consider the possibility that you might not know what you're talking about?

Re: Starship's Fourth Flight Test [video]

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Post by mpweiher » Fri, Jun 07, 2024, 10:13 AM UTC

pclmulqdq wrote: post #133

mpweiher wrote: post #131

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Once again: no. The trajectory was suborbital, the perigee was inside earth so the actual trajectory would intersect the earth's surface, and the atmosphere first.

The trajectory of the actual flight was suborbital, but the planned trajectory of the flight involved burning all the way to orbital insertion (hence the "orbital velocity" being on the flight plan). Once again, velocity is a vector, and "orbital velocity" means "a heading and speed suitable for orbit." By the way, I agree that they never intended to complete an orbit, just that they intended to get into (and promptl…

Once again, from the very graphic you posted:

"for an actual deorbit burn, the ship would need to yaw 180º first"

So there was no deorbit burn planned.

How were they going to get the 100t spaceship out of orbit before completing a single orbit without doing a deorbit burn?

Re: Starship's Fourth Flight Test [video]

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Post by panick21_ » Mon, Jun 10, 2024, 1:23 AM UTC

throwaway0394 wrote: post #72

s1k3s wrote: post #38

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Why does it keep exploding? Don't they already have the knowledge and tech to achieve this?

Don't ask that specific question. SpaceX progress with Starship is absolutely bottom level. Not even close to where they want to be. I recommend looking past all of that and cheer along with the idiots when the mission fails.

There once was a man trying to make make gold from iron. He ended up making silver from iron.

throwaway0394:

Not even close to where they want to be.

I recommend looking past all of that and cheer along with the idiots when the mission fails.