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Things the guys who stole my phone have texted me to try to get me to unlock it

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post #90

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These days, it's not worth it to steal an iPhone. It's a useless brick. That Apple knows where it's at.

It gets stripped down for parts. Many of the individual components are valuable

The higher value parts are locked down also.

I wonder if that includes the screen or not? Is it possible to lock down an iPhone screen these days, or can you use it as a replacement for another iphone whose screen is busted?

Re: Things the guys who stole my phone have texted me to try to get me to unlock it

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post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Clearly this isn't true, as her phone got stolen.

Yup. I assume there is plenty of value to be found selling donor boards and other parts of the iPhone. Not saying it's a repair shop's fault if they end up with motherboards of a stolen phone, but if I were a thief dealing with an activation-locked phone, my first idea would be a jailbreak, and if that fails, then disassemble the phone and sell the parts. Presumably thieves already do these things (and more sophistic…

You really have to be careful with third-party iPhone repairs, especially in China. I had my phone repaired once, and when I got it back...it kind of worked, but they swapped out another part for something that was broken to ensure repeat business. That was in the iPhone 1 days though.

Re: Things the guys who stole my phone have texted me to try to get me to unlock it

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> I checked Find My and my phone was indeed in China. It looked like it was in an office building conveniently located around the corner from an Adidas store, about 8,000 miles from me. You’d think for a police state, China would be just little bit better at cracking down on obvious crime that happens within their borders. But I guess not.

China simply isn't a police state.

More to the point, it is authoritarian, but you also have things like prostitution going on in broad day light. The central and local governments have a very focused attention span, and if what bad thing you are doing is outside of that, they probably won't notice.

Just don't sell/buy drugs, or get into fights when drunk.

Re: Things the guys who stole my phone have texted me to try to get me to unlock it

#144
post #10

Honestly. This is a pretty good advertisement for Apple. I appreciate the effort that they've put into making my device less valuable to thiefs.

No, they sell the parts if they can't get the phone unlocked. Even if the phone would be a worthless brick, a stolen phone is a phone that the owner will never get back. Fresh e-waste, straight into the landfill I guess. Is this sarcasm?

Re: Things the guys who stole my phone have texted me to try to get me to unlock it

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post #4

> I checked Find My and my phone was indeed in China. It looked like it was in an office building conveniently located around the corner from an Adidas store, about 8,000 miles from me. You’d think for a police state, China would be just little bit better at cracking down on obvious crime that happens within their borders. But I guess not.

1. Chinese government is not as competent as it tries to appear. 2. They do not care about foreigners or crimes unless they involve Chinese citizens.

Chinese citizens are treated fairly similarly. There are plenty of unlawful activities that go unpoliced/unpunished (massage parlors), unless there happens to be a specific crackdown going on (otherwise, the police know what is going on and are probably getting a cut).

Re: Things the guys who stole my phone have texted me to try to get me to unlock it

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post #103

> I checked Find My and my phone was indeed in China. It looked like it was in an office building conveniently located around the corner from an Adidas store, about 8,000 miles from me. You’d think for a police state, China would be just little bit better at cracking down on obvious crime that happens within their borders. But I guess not.

The police does in fact care about phones belonging to Chinese owners stolen in China. They couldn't care less about phones belonging to Americans stolen in America.

Same with illicit fentanyl: sell it in China -> Death penalty, no mercy. Ship it off to America to be sold cheaply to addicts -> no problem.

Re: Things the guys who stole my phone have texted me to try to get me to unlock it

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> I checked Find My and my phone was indeed in China. It looked like it was in an office building conveniently located around the corner from an Adidas store, about 8,000 miles from me. You’d think for a police state, China would be just little bit better at cracking down on obvious crime that happens within their borders. But I guess not.

China is not a police state, they are a military state. The US is a police state. In China the local cops are generally far more hands off than an in the US. China is more top-down from the national level. In the US, local police are the typical mechanism for control.

Cops are hands off. When they need hands on, they call in the PAP. They are armed and have the riot control gear.

China is top-down, except when it isn't, then its very bottom up. Is is sort of dichotomy of a central government with absolute authority but a limited attention span.

Re: Things the guys who stole my phone have texted me to try to get me to unlock it

#149
post #10

Honestly. This is a pretty good advertisement for Apple. I appreciate the effort that they've put into making my device less valuable to thiefs.

No, they sell the parts if they can't get the phone unlocked. Even if the phone would be a worthless brick, a stolen phone is a phone that the owner will never get back. Fresh e-waste, straight into the landfill I guess. Is this sarcasm?

Parts are less valuable, which leads to lower level of theft overall.

Re: Things the guys who stole my phone have texted me to try to get me to unlock it

#150
post #10

Honestly. This is a pretty good advertisement for Apple. I appreciate the effort that they've put into making my device less valuable to thiefs.

No, they sell the parts if they can't get the phone unlocked. Even if the phone would be a worthless brick, a stolen phone is a phone that the owner will never get back. Fresh e-waste, straight into the landfill I guess. Is this sarcasm?

Nobody risks stealing individual bricks from people's front yards. The risk exceeds the reward. The end goal here is to make the phone so useless that nobody even tries to steal it.
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