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Re: Carpenter's AirTags help uncover 'massive' case of stolen tools in Maryland

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Post by Dylan16807 »

throwup238 wrote: post #132
skyyler wrote: post #119

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Depends highly on the region. Most US prisons look like daycare compared to Japanese prisons, wrt prisoner treatment. (The prisons in the southeast US are an exception to this)

I don't really mean it in the quality of life sense as prison is pretty awful in most of the world, especially in developing countries. The 13th amendment codifies slavery into our prison system and few things are as barbaric in my mind. It's basically a few small rungs down from sacrificing prisoners to Quetzalcoatl and the rain gods, which is graphic but no more dehumanizing. States with prolific death penalties ju…

The photo shows them walking in a line next to a guard that doesn't have to walk? I don't get it.

A lot of prisoners get treated badly, but the inherent idea of being forced to do labor doesn't strike me as ridiculous. Just about everybody has to work. Comparing it to sacrifice is stupid.

Re: Carpenter's AirTags help uncover 'massive' case of stolen tools in Maryland

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Post by jjulius »

WalterBright wrote: post #135
nevir wrote: post #124

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As a Seattle resident: wat? No we didn't.

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The person you are responding to is saying that Seattle did not defund the police. Literally the second sentence in your link is:

>The answer is not that the Seattle Police Department was defunded.

What do you think you are refuting?

Edit: And how on earth do you cite a hiring bonus as an example that they have been defunded?

Re: Carpenter's AirTags help uncover 'massive' case of stolen tools in Maryland

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Post by brailsafe »

Aloisius wrote: post #78
brailsafe wrote: post #37

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Compared to some stuff that actually seems to happen, the only leap of imagination I see here is that it would bankrupt the company overnight, or that it would matter to the people involved. Not to say that it's even remotely likely , but all you need is for someone with a vested interest to find a cost effective way to boost sales. Depending on how desperate people and the broader economy are, and how little people…

> The person stealing doesn't need to know who hired them I think you're vastly underestimating how difficult it is to anonymously recruit and pay thousands of thieves from all over the country to target one particular brand and ensure they actually do the job. Maybe one could offer some sort of buy-back program to maybe induce this behavior, but that would be quite expensive.

I didn't attribute a difficulty ranking to it or suggest any particular scale, or suggest I'd be the one to do it, but I have no doubt it would be difficult.

Would it not be in the same ballpark of reasoning though as updating your older products to intentionally slow them down and influence more sales, or updating your trains to conveniently not work when they're at a competitors depot?

Sure it'd be a more blatant demonstration of sociopathy and criminal intent to commit widespread theft of tools, but really we'd only need one missing detail, and that's a connection back to the companies, the theft is already happening.

In this case it doesn't seem it's nationwide or one particular manufacturer, but if you're in a position to even consider such a thing, I'd think you either don't care or don't anticipate being caught, and perhaps don't care about precision or results, which really reduces the problem. Like if you're a popular retailer of many brands, but seeing sales slump. Now you can just find someone who already coordinates thieves to steal any equipment in some region, and if all you care about is that warehouse is filling up and your sales are increasing, your first problem is solved.

Re: Carpenter's AirTags help uncover 'massive' case of stolen tools in Maryland

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Post by willcipriano »

rdtsc wrote: post #11

> He called police, who got a search warrant Kind of sad, that I was surprised they did that. It's definitely a local thing. I'd expect the police to shrug, and say it's too bad, just file a report to use for insurance. I remember people saying "so what if you have tags, police won't do anything and you shouldn't be confronting thieves anyway". Apple, on the other hand, is also explicit about tags not to be used as a…

A lot of cops are from working class backgrounds, stealing a man's tools is an old school, working class, "faux pas" for lack of a better term.

Steal a guys watch or TV, fine. He will go without. Steal his tools and his kids don't get Christmas. Even the most gruesome mob hitmen would turn their noses up at stealing a working man's tools.

Re: Carpenter's AirTags help uncover 'massive' case of stolen tools in Maryland

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Post by dclowd9901 »

kstrauser wrote: post #94
LeoPanthera wrote: post #79

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And q-tips aren't for cleaning ears, but what you gonna do.

Oh, I totally use them for the same thing. It's more that whenever this comes up, some people inevitably go off on tangents about how that's not what AirTags are used for, and we're crazy for using them for this (incredibly obvious) application.

Just plausible deniability to keep Apple safe from litigation if someone decides to go all vigilante.

Re: Carpenter's AirTags help uncover 'massive' case of stolen tools in Maryland

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Post by RheingoldRiver »

mattm wrote: post #98
LeoPanthera wrote: post #79

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And q-tips aren't for cleaning ears, but what you gonna do.

What are they used for?

they're supposed to be for makeup and other things you need to apply without getting any on yourself

Re: Carpenter's AirTags help uncover 'massive' case of stolen tools in Maryland

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Post by [deleted] »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #141
throwup238 wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't really mean it in the quality of life sense as prison is pretty awful in most of the world, especially in developing countries. The 13th amendment codifies slavery into our prison system and few things are as barbaric in my mind. It's basically a few small rungs down from sacrificing prisoners to Quetzalcoatl and the rain gods, which is graphic but no more dehumanizing. States with prolific death penalties ju…

The photo shows them walking in a line next to a guard that doesn't have to walk? I don't get it. A lot of prisoners get treated badly, but the inherent idea of being forced to do labor doesn't strike me as ridiculous. Just about everybody has to work. Comparing it to sacrifice is stupid.

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Re: Carpenter's AirTags help uncover 'massive' case of stolen tools in Maryland

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Post by nebula8804 »

joshu wrote: post #136
Tossrock wrote: post #113

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If you want gold-plated, there's Hilti, but you're paying a lot extra for a marginal increase in reliability. Milwaukee, Bosch, Makita, and DeWalt are all in the same range, ie contractor/prosumer (and all mostly are manufactured in China). Ryobi is slightly lower but generally fine, ie consumer / price sensitive. Below that is Harbor Freight / no-name electric drill you'd find in am Amazon Basics "essential tools" k…

festool is up from hilti, maybe

WOW I've never heard of festool and hilti but simple googling has turned up amazing stores of their customer service. Unfortunately it looks like they don't overlap completely in the types of tools Ryobi offers.

I really like Ryobi's 18V and 40V 'ecosystem'. Every time I am browsing Home Depot or their website, I come across new items that are compatible with these two ecosystems.

Just recently I saw everything from 18V Ryobi Glue Gun to a Portable Power washer that can suck water from a bucket (eliminating the need for a hose) to even a portable soldering iron! Hell they even got a boombox ha ha!

For the 40V I saw cool things such as a portable power generator, lawn mowers, wet dry vac and even a portable refrigerator.

Its really cool that there are like a bazillion things that your existing batteries can plug into.

Re: Carpenter's AirTags help uncover 'massive' case of stolen tools in Maryland

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Post by kube-system »

Dylan16807 wrote: post #141
throwup238 wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't really mean it in the quality of life sense as prison is pretty awful in most of the world, especially in developing countries. The 13th amendment codifies slavery into our prison system and few things are as barbaric in my mind. It's basically a few small rungs down from sacrificing prisoners to Quetzalcoatl and the rain gods, which is graphic but no more dehumanizing. States with prolific death penalties ju…

The photo shows them walking in a line next to a guard that doesn't have to walk? I don't get it. A lot of prisoners get treated badly, but the inherent idea of being forced to do labor doesn't strike me as ridiculous. Just about everybody has to work. Comparing it to sacrifice is stupid.

Most people choose their work. I think the sacrifice comparison wasn't to labor, but to the fact that capital punishment is still practiced in the US.

Re: Carpenter's AirTags help uncover 'massive' case of stolen tools in Maryland

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Post by [deleted] »

ToucanLoucan wrote: post #89
google234123 wrote: post #75

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This is a regressive and defeatist attitude. We actually don't have to tolerate this in a society- those engaging in it should be punished and forcibly removed if they aren't able to change.

Evidence has shown that punitive penalties for crime do not affect crime rates.

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