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Firefox bug gets fixed after 25 years

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Re: Firefox bug gets fixed after 25 years

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Post by stemlord »

sanderjd wrote: post #126
nuccy wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Better the opposite - date by default and on hover human readable. People would more likely want to copy the actual date than the human readable delta.

Agree to disagree :) The "human readable" is better at a glance, and timestamps are better when I care about the specifics. > People would more likely want to copy the actual date than the human readable delta. I agree that this is true when copying, but text is primarily for reading, not copying.

I find dates more readable as an ordered list of numbers. A thread can be quickly scrolled down through while seeing >2001 then eventually >2024 at the same x-position on the page. Same goes with the month then day.

Anyway, in the context of a comment/activity thread, how long ago from today that an entry was tends to be less important than the age of the comment relative to the other comments.

Re: Firefox bug gets fixed after 25 years

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Post by chungy »

beeboobaa3 wrote: post #74
chungy wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It looks weird to me too, but it's hardly indecipherable. You have a four-digit year (2000), there's only 12 months in the year, so the "28" is the day and "03" is the month. In ISO 8601 format, it'd be 2000-03-28. In American written format, it'd be March 28, 2000.

What's weird about the most common date format in the world, dd-mm-yyyy?

I've never encountered that particular format before, and based on that, I'll question the claim of "most common", but even still, I could understand what was meant.

Re: Firefox bug gets fixed after 25 years

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Post by 2Gkashmiri »

bombcar wrote: post #64
hypeatei wrote: post #45

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I find it amazing that your subscription to that bug thread survived all those years. Wow!

I have a few bugs that are almost ready to go off to college, and I get an email about once a year from various machinations involving them.

And then you have stale bot on GitHub closing issues for no activity in like 3 months -_-

Re: Firefox bug gets fixed after 25 years

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Post by sayrer »

Xenoamorphous wrote: post #46

Off topic but I really dislike the trend of using “human readable durations” like “a month ago”, just tell me the bloody date, I can figure out for myself. Outlook (Mac version at least) is the worst offender. For emails prior to the current day it will say for example just “yesterday” and it will only show you the time if you click on the email. I get dozens of mails per day, having just “yesterday” for 50 messages…

It helps to avoid timezone details within a day or two. I agree "a month ago" is pretty bad, but I haven't seen that.

But it's good to say "1hr ago" if I send an email from New York to San Francisco.

Re: Firefox bug gets fixed after 25 years

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Post by Zuiii »

2Gkashmiri wrote: post #144
bombcar wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a few bugs that are almost ready to go off to college, and I get an email about once a year from various machinations involving them.

And then you have stale bot on GitHub closing issues for no activity in like 3 months -_-

That bot is disgusting. I spent a lot of time and effort to write detailed bug reports only to have this stupid bot spit in my face close them (and yes, some of the bugs are still there till this day).

I've learned not to bother submitting bug reports unless I can guarantee that my time will not be wasted. If I find a bug in a project that doesn t guarantee this, I either fix it privately for myself or switch to another project.

Closing issues automatically. What a demented idea.

Re: Firefox bug gets fixed after 25 years

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Post by Zuiii »

freedomben wrote: post #139
Xenoamorphous wrote: post #46

Off topic but I really dislike the trend of using “human readable durations” like “a month ago”, just tell me the bloody date, I can figure out for myself. Outlook (Mac version at least) is the worst offender. For emails prior to the current day it will say for example just “yesterday” and it will only show you the time if you click on the email. I get dozens of mails per day, having just “yesterday” for 50 messages…

Seriously, I cannot wait for this trend to die. It makes a huge difference if an email was received at 6:00 a.m. or if it was received at 11:00 p.m. that day. Simply saying "yesterday" is not good enough! I like my beer cold and my time stamps precise.

Design over function at microsoft.

The new outlook 365 seems to have removed the time component from older entries so even when they show you the date, it won't include the time. If you have 20 emails per day, you'll have to open them one by one until you find the one you need.

I wish there is a way to revert to the old behavior but microsoft support says we don't need this.

Re: Firefox bug gets fixed after 25 years

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Post by sesm »

Zuiii wrote: post #146
2Gkashmiri wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And then you have stale bot on GitHub closing issues for no activity in like 3 months -_-

That bot is disgusting. I spent a lot of time and effort to write detailed bug reports only to have this stupid bot spit in my face close them (and yes, some of the bugs are still there till this day). I've learned not to bother submitting bug reports unless I can guarantee that my time will not be wasted. If I find a bug in a project that doesn t guarantee this, I either fix it privately for myself or switch to anot…

That's because most Github repos are not for collaborative development, but rather for marketing and customer support.

Re: Firefox bug gets fixed after 25 years

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Post by aendruk »

2Gkashmiri wrote: post #144
bombcar wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have a few bugs that are almost ready to go off to college, and I get an email about once a year from various machinations involving them.

And then you have stale bot on GitHub closing issues for no activity in like 3 months -_-

Closing is one thing—at least you can still use the issue as a communal gathering point to make slow progress. The casual locking on the other hand is mystifying.

And so often there’s the added gaslighting of a project that provides some rationale for closing but then inexplicably locks too as if that’s the same.

Re: Firefox bug gets fixed after 25 years

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Post by afiori »

jimnotgym wrote: post #129
Xenoamorphous wrote: post #46

Off topic but I really dislike the trend of using “human readable durations” like “a month ago”, just tell me the bloody date, I can figure out for myself. Outlook (Mac version at least) is the worst offender. For emails prior to the current day it will say for example just “yesterday” and it will only show you the time if you click on the email. I get dozens of mails per day, having just “yesterday” for 50 messages…

> just tell me the bloody date, I can figure out for myself. I, however, really struggle with this. I have a real problem with any concept of dates or the passing of time.

Then show a detailed timestamp in a tooltip.
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