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How to Turn Off AI Overview in Google and Set "Web" as Default

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Re: How to Turn Off AI Overview in Google and Set "Web" as Default

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post #10

Your loss, I will keep expanding my brain with the wisdom of Googles powerful AI https://imgur.com/a/g4qOU9a

The future of search is truly here. These feel like something a satirical tech website would come up with.

"Hooli in da house"

Re: How to Turn Off AI Overview in Google and Set "Web" as Default

#142
post #16

Adding to the litany of bad google ideas from the past 10+ years: - Killing google reader - Pointless UI changes - Multiple chat and videocall apps that cannibalize each other. - Stadia fiasco - Shoving AI down our throats in their MAIN PRODUCT What's the source of this rot? I have a friend at google who says the place is filled with smart people competing with each other. Perhaps this competition fuels a chaotic lac…

Wall St wants to see them keeping up with the latest tech. That's why Apple put billions into VR and we will hear nothing of it in 12-24 months. Another reason is talent retention/acquisition. AI will be history in 12-24 months when the bubble bursts and we are left with a mountain of cheap GPUs.

> and we are left with a mountain of cheap GPUs.

cheap obsolete GPUs?

Re: How to Turn Off AI Overview in Google and Set "Web" as Default

#143
post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The answers aren’t deterministic. Which is part of the problem. While searching for these now may give you the right answers, I have personally encountered this level of bad responses enough times that none of these are surprising. There’s no need to doctor screenshots to get these responses, at least twice now Google has shown bad answers in their own marketing materials .

Plain old web search wasn't deterministic either. At least for the past decade or more. I mean different people getting different results.

It pretty much was deterministic before Google started using ML to "help" interpret your search queries, which was a decade or more ago. Not coincidentally, that was also when Google search results started getting noticeably worse for me.

Re: How to Turn Off AI Overview in Google and Set "Web" as Default

#144

I’m not an AI maximalist by any means but something that summarizes things that I already have context for like “syntax to do X in language Y” I’d much rather see a summary than an ad riddled webpage.

If people had thought more critically about streaming when it was new, they might have foreseen that the ad-free experience was temporary and would inevitably be replaced with ads. That money was never going to be left on the table long term.

But the ads are worse now, the precedent with a DVR is to be able to control the video stream and skip ads but with streaming there's no such precedent so the technology allows that freedom to be taken away and ads can be made unskippable.

And now we have an opportunity to realize before it's too late that this generation of AI will inevitably lead to as much advertising as we had before, and it will once again become qualitatively worse in that it will be seamlessly and opaquely integrated into AI output without even necessarily any disclosure. I will take a blockable banner ad over that any day.

Re: How to Turn Off AI Overview in Google and Set "Web" as Default

#145
post #30

I turned off AI Overview in Google by switching to Kagi a few months back :P Seriously though. I'm waiting for the day that Google indexes all websites using embeddings into a massive vector database, so that Gemini can interact directly with all the indexed websites.

On a related note, I actually really like Kagi's quick answer feature for simple questions. The fact that they cite sources that you can then double check is the biggest win to me.

Bing does this as well, for free.

Re: How to Turn Off AI Overview in Google and Set "Web" as Default

#146
post #10

Your loss, I will keep expanding my brain with the wisdom of Googles powerful AI https://imgur.com/a/g4qOU9a

Jesus, that kidney stones one is bad :( It's funny when the LLM totally checks out of reality, but not at all funny when the statement seems plausible to ignorant people. (A lot people seem to subscribe to an ideology of "dumb people get what they deserve." What this really means to me is "I have Dunning-Kruger syndrome," but I wonder how much of that gets filtered down into making excuses for AI that sucks so badly…

> A lot people seem to subscribe to an ideology of "dumb people get what they deserve."

That's the mantra that allows far too many scammers to sleep at night.

Re: How to Turn Off AI Overview in Google and Set "Web" as Default

#147

Considering how much Google search has shaped my life, I am somewhat* surprised by the amount of people in this thread, who apparently have zero tolerance for continued innovation in this area and the rough edges it brings. *Oh well, it's hn, after all

I have a low tolerance for tools that don't work well.

I'm not willing to put up with rough edges for "continued innovation" in a mainline product, and I don't see why I should have to.

Release the rough product as a beta for those who like the bleeding edge. Sand those edges down before mainstreaming it. The eagerness of software companies to release junk in the mainstream as a kind of "free" beta testing or market research is a large part of why software quality is not so good these days.

Re: How to Turn Off AI Overview in Google and Set "Web" as Default

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If you have a question about the answer have the AI review it to make sure it's correct. I have gotten it to pull it's head out of its ass numerous times. It's like a conversation with a human. It's easy to hold it wrong if you believe things you see in print.

This is just completely disconnected from my original comment. What if someone reads "drink fruit juice to clear up kidney stones" from an AI and doesn't have a question about the answer because they don't fully understand what kidney stones are? The only response AI advocates seem to have is "not my problem." Or, far too often, the vindictive irresponsibility of "it was his fault for being so stupid that he trusted…

>"it was his fault for being so stupid that he trusted us."

It reminds me of a young Mark Zuckerberg, “they trust me. Dumb f*cks.”

Re: How to Turn Off AI Overview in Google and Set "Web" as Default

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is just completely disconnected from my original comment. What if someone reads "drink fruit juice to clear up kidney stones" from an AI and doesn't have a question about the answer because they don't fully understand what kidney stones are? The only response AI advocates seem to have is "not my problem." Or, far too often, the vindictive irresponsibility of "it was his fault for being so stupid that he trusted…

>"it was his fault for being so stupid that he trusted us." It reminds me of a young Mark Zuckerberg, “they trust me. Dumb f*cks.”

I was thinking Animal House when I wrote it: https://youtube.com/watch?v=oCpwd0ARx6Q&pp=ygUbYW5pbWFsIGhvd...

  "Flounder, you can't spend your whole life worrying about your mistakes. You fucked up! You trusted us! Hey, make the best of it... maybe we can help you."

Re: How to Turn Off AI Overview in Google and Set "Web" as Default

#150

Thanks, I appreciate the detailed instructions. Just did all of my browsers to escape the AI. (Which in most cases looked like the first choice just reworded some. OTOH, I'm thinking about clicking that Make Default button on DuckDuckGo and skipping the entire mess.

OTOH, I'm thinking about clicking that Make Default button on DuckDuckGo and skipping the entire mess.

Bad news. The Duck has AI now, too.

I just searched for something and it popped up DuckAssist with "Try generating an answer from Wikipedia."

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