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Fastest rate of natural carbon dioxide rise over the last 50k years

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I'm patiently waiting for my sysadmin job to be automated away. AGI, its time to deliver! I'm waiting. Should have happened yesterday?

The only AI remotely generic enough for that exists for like 2 years. Give it a few more, you might just get your wish.

Maybe.

Re: Fastest rate of natural carbon dioxide rise over the last 50k years

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'Mother' Gaia will wipe all complex life from this planet with 1 to 1.5 Billion years if her 'undisciplined' puppies don't find a way to leave this ball of dirt. She's also got quite a lead with killing off 99.99999% of all species that ever lived, when compared to us.

You think leaving earth is the solution? The only place we've evolved to survive on.

The earth hasn't always existed in its current state, or for that matter existed at all.

Once day the earth will almost certainly cease to exist and intelligence will have to find a new home of some kind. We have probably got a couple of billion years though if we are careful and I have no idea what intelligence will evolve to over that timeframe.

Re: Fastest rate of natural carbon dioxide rise over the last 50k years

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What do you take away from this?

That its not nearly as much as an catastrophe as some HN readers wish it to be. Think about it. The carbon didn't spawn in the earth, it got deposited there. Coal and oil are sediment based. It used to be in circulation previously. And yet Earth is still habitable.

Oh geeze, that graph is really concerning. We're approaching temperatures where humans weren't living!

Re: Fastest rate of natural carbon dioxide rise over the last 50k years

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post #58

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To put the blame in the right place, perhaps? Obviously China (and its government) has its own responsibilities as well, but it all started with Western companies (and the Western lifestyle)

China said yes to all those things for Western money. They could've said no, they could've put in restrictions to lower their profits and improve conditions. Don't act like China is some poor puppy bullied around by the West.

>China said yes to all those things for Western money. They could've said no

Terrible argument. If it's not gonna be China, it's gonna be Vietnam, or Bangladesh, or Pakistan, or Sri Lanka, or whoever the rich west will deem fit to host their dirty industries at the most rock bottom prices so they can make a profit.

So again, is really all China's or $POOR_NATION fault, or the West's fault for constantly bidding the poor countries against each other in a race to the bottom in terms of human rights and environmental destruction for the sake of profit?

Just blaming the poor countries claiming that "well, the poor countries should just say NO to hosting the west's dirty industry", is incredibly stupid and short sighted.

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post #99

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I imagine it will happen when heatwaves and droughts start to be a serious issue.

Heatwaves are a serious issue already, try being one of the few hundred million people in South Asia/SEA with 3k annual income and no aircon during April 2024. School cancelled and outdoors work nearly impossible due to wet bulb temperatures nearing the threshold of human survivability.

I meant serious as in "this place is no longer habitable".

Re: Fastest rate of natural carbon dioxide rise over the last 50k years

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#1 is marketing hype. #2 is very real. #3 is happening and could cause #2 if wars for livable land and water resources break out.

#1 is very real #2 is warmongering #3 will be solved by human ingenuity I have a more positive outlook. :)

The idea that we are going to technology our way out of climate change is hilariously naive. That would require us to remove more co2 from the atmopshere each year than we add, which is just a laughable idea to achieve within the required time frame of the next 15 years or so.

Re: Fastest rate of natural carbon dioxide rise over the last 50k years

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That its not nearly as much as an catastrophe as some HN readers wish it to be. Think about it. The carbon didn't spawn in the earth, it got deposited there. Coal and oil are sediment based. It used to be in circulation previously. And yet Earth is still habitable.

Oh geeze, that graph is really concerning. We're approaching temperatures where humans weren't living!

People live in Australia right now. And Morocco!

Re: Fastest rate of natural carbon dioxide rise over the last 50k years

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#1 is marketing hype. #2 is very real. #3 is happening and could cause #2 if wars for livable land and water resources break out.

#1 is very real #2 is warmongering #3 will be solved by human ingenuity I have a more positive outlook. :)

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Re: Fastest rate of natural carbon dioxide rise over the last 50k years

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#1 is marketing hype. #2 is very real. #3 is happening and could cause #2 if wars for livable land and water resources break out.

#1 is marketing hype #2 is a remote possibility #3 is a non-threat

please explain how #3 is a non-threat?

Re: Fastest rate of natural carbon dioxide rise over the last 50k years

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post #132

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Isn’t the whole issue that the real action will be too late given our currently technology?

And yet the comment you are replying to is probably the case.

I'm not downplaying global warming, but I do think the general public still is.
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