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Tire toxicity faces fresh scrutiny after salmon die-offs

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Re: Tire toxicity faces fresh scrutiny after salmon die-offs

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I'd like to see a weight tax on vehicles. Lighter vehicles have less tire wear, so less pollution. They also require less energy to move, so less emissions. Plus lighter vehicles would improve pedestrian safety.

I'm tired of viewing taxes as a punishment. Taxes are for funding the government. If you're going to tax someone make sure the money goes to something specific, like keeping tire junk out of waterways. Some people like to drive, some people like big cars. Fix the tires, grand-daddy in all the existing cars, incentivize cleaner ones, and let everything age out. They're doing it with heat pumps, why not cars?

On the level of the US federal government, taxes are absolutely not for funding. They could hardly be more removed from it.

They're a restriction the money supply, but they don't determine what funding is.

Re: Tire toxicity faces fresh scrutiny after salmon die-offs

#142
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If you don't mind my asking, how do you maintain your property? It may be illustrative to see what some of the alternatives to the scenarios you described with your neighbors might be.

I mow and weed wack. Looks tidy, but lawn is mix of weeds and grass.

"Weed" is in the eye of the beholder. If it's not a harmful invasive plant then really the only reason to not want it is aesthetics or because it impacts what you want to do with a space.

Re: Tire toxicity faces fresh scrutiny after salmon die-offs

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"we need to prioritize driving less." I doubt the majority of the world population wants to be included in your "we".

I’m not so convinced that people are so foolish. Maybe they don’t want to be the first ones to stop driving but I think most people recognize the problems we face as a society.

India, Africa and China are just waking up economically. Hundreds of millions of people waiting to buy cars to improve their quality of life by being more mobile.

Re: Tire toxicity faces fresh scrutiny after salmon die-offs

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post #119

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If you don't mind my asking, how do you maintain your property? It may be illustrative to see what some of the alternatives to the scenarios you described with your neighbors might be.

I mow and weed wack. Looks tidy, but lawn is mix of weeds and grass.

Weeds are just unwanted grasses, flowers and hedges. Sounds like you like all of your lawn plants, so you don't actually have any "weeds."

That's how I do it too. It's the right thing for our planet.

Re: Tire toxicity faces fresh scrutiny after salmon die-offs

#145
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My neighbor on one side maintains their virginal lawn with copious amounts of roundup, the neighbor on the other has a facsimile in astroturf. We will wallow, willingly, in trash, breathing fumes, particle dust, just because of an imitative, aesthetic fad. It's absolutely incredible to me.

If you don't mind my asking, how do you maintain your property? It may be illustrative to see what some of the alternatives to the scenarios you described with your neighbors might be.

Mine is slightly different from the other responder. I do mow my front yard (HOA requires it), but in the back I only weedwhack the areas that we actively use and a path to them. The gondola does have a square of cheap Home Depot astroturf under it, mostly so I don't have to weedwhack it every time we want to use it.

My back yard is primarily ~knee high hedge parsley at the moment; the flowers are beautiful! I will have to weedwhack most of it here shortly though. Hedge parsley grows burrs after blooming, and it's a huge pain to pick them off all my clothing and furniture after my dogs roll in them and then come inside.

My dogs love to run in it, and it brings in ton of wildlife. I'm on the edge of urban and suburban and get deer, rabbits, tons of birds, squirrels, raccoons, field mice, and more insects than you can shake a stick at. The mosquito population is surprisingly moderate as well; my suspicion is that the natural plants provide enough food for herbivorous insects that my house has a standing population of carnivorous insects flying around.

I vastly prefer it from an aesthetic standpoint, though I grew up rural and prefer the organized chaos of nature over the unsettling uniformity of manicured outdoor spaces generally. It's also much less work than routine weed-eating and what not. Some people may have allergies and hate it.

My only major concern is with attracting dangerous wildlife, primarily snakes given my geography. There's nowhere particularly warm for them to bask, but hiding spots are innumerable. Humans would likely be okay (the hiding spots are not close to where we hang out), but I do worry for my dogs. They really like sticking their snouts places where snakes would like to hang out.

Re: Tire toxicity faces fresh scrutiny after salmon die-offs

#146
post #36

I'd like to see a weight tax on vehicles. Lighter vehicles have less tire wear, so less pollution. They also require less energy to move, so less emissions. Plus lighter vehicles would improve pedestrian safety.

That would amount to a tax on (among other vehicles) electric vehicles, which weight a lot more than comparable ICE cars.

And rightfully so, IMO. Increased pollution from increased weight is a real issue.

Re: Tire toxicity faces fresh scrutiny after salmon die-offs

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I love pushing "Tire Taxes". We all know that tires will emit rubber particles down to the point where the tire tred is 2/32th of an inch (from ~8/32ths of a fresh tire). So just... tax the tires based on the ~6/32ths of an inch outer-diameter of the tire that turns into microplastic dust. Calculate the microplastic dust weight of the outer diameter + weight of tires and bam. You have a 1-to-1 correlation of tax to e…

Doesn't account for road wear or pedestrian risk, though.

I have to imagine that if Car X wore out 5kg of rubber, that it would have had half the impact of another Car Y that wore out 10kg of rubber.

Right? Tire wear has to be directly correlated to road wear. They're in physical contact with each other after all, so it'd be as direct a measurement as any other possible methodology.

Re: Tire toxicity faces fresh scrutiny after salmon die-offs

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post #119

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I mow and weed wack. Looks tidy, but lawn is mix of weeds and grass.

Weeds are just unwanted grasses, flowers and hedges. Sounds like you like all of your lawn plants, so you don't actually have any "weeds." That's how I do it too. It's the right thing for our planet.

I'd mostly agree, although it's worth mentioning that there are certain invasive species and harmful plants that are best to get rid of however you can. It might be worth taking a look at what's growing even for people who aren't interested in pulling weeds.

Re: Tire toxicity faces fresh scrutiny after salmon die-offs

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That would amount to a tax on (among other vehicles) electric vehicles, which weight a lot more than comparable ICE cars.

And rightfully so, IMO. Increased pollution from increased weight is a real issue.

Sure, but it doesn't seem politically viable to me.

Re: Tire toxicity faces fresh scrutiny after salmon die-offs

#150
post #36

I'd like to see a weight tax on vehicles. Lighter vehicles have less tire wear, so less pollution. They also require less energy to move, so less emissions. Plus lighter vehicles would improve pedestrian safety.

Even more taxes on semi trucks that deliver the food that's already growing unaffordable that will be passed on to consumers then?

It's not hard to Fermi-estimate the impact on the price of a cabbage, say. What do you think it would be?
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