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When do we stop finding new music?

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Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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I remember reading a headline that Despacito had been displaced from the #1 position on Billboard after a 16 week run, while I had never heard the song. At that point I became a bit more intentional about trying to find new music.

I know what you mean but at that point I started blaming the system! I still don't know that song.

Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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Spotify has financial incentive to obfuscate their UI to tilt people toward mindlessly consuming playlists. This is because labels pay Spotify to put certain songs on large playlists, and Spotify knows playlists are a good habit to push onto their users. Radio was used to discover new music decades ago, but paying a radio station (directly) to play a song is illegal (payola), so DJs had to break new songs, styles, an…

> This is detrimental to music discovery, because discovering a song is a lot less meaningful than discovering a new album and consuming the project as a whole and appreciating its composition. This is a very silly statement. As someone who prefers to listen the full albums and does so 95% of the time and basically never seek to play a specific single; I’m definitely not going to listen to an entire albums of new art…

>If I like a song, I’ll listen to the album. If it I like the album, I’ll listen to the discography.

Not everyone wants to put forth that much effort. Design decisions are often, if not always, centered around the path of least resistance. [1]

1: https://www.usertesting.com/blog/why-users-wont-go-where-you...

Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am 100% onboard with the phone bans. There's nothing worse than hundreds of phone screens glowing in your face while you're trying to enjoy a live act. I can't imagine how weird it must feel for the performer(s) too. To go from people looking at you, making eye contact, engaging with the performance, to suddenly seeing a sea of phones pointed at you, with everyone watching you indirectly via their phone screen.

Yea, the whole "I want to watch the concert through my phone" thing I don't get at all. If you just want to watch it on your phone, why not just stay home and watch a professionally-produced concert video? Are they actually recording it for later (and are actually going to watch their low-quality recording later), or do they simply need to frame everything they experience inside a phone bezel?

They just want to brag about it, I guess. Like with photos of their meals and... well, lots of things. To each their own, but I stopped attending most shows mainly because of the annoying seas of phones in front of me.

Re: When do we stop finding new music?

#144

Age has affected my taste in music, but I continue to discover new music as I reach my mid 40s. As a teenager, I wanted to listen to grunge, punk, and metal. In my 20s, I had a strong preference for indie music. In my 30s, I got into blues and American folk music. Now, I’m in a jazz phase and appreciating classic guitarists from the 1950s and 1960s. I have always loved classical music, and I still appreciate a lot of…

> Age has affected my taste in music, but I continue to discover new music

Same here... And I became really into the ganre World Music

Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

> so DJs had to break new songs, styles, and have a wide array of music offered (within the theme of the station). I'm an older Zoomer and this was never the case for radio in my lifetime [1]. I heard "college radio stations" being a bastion of this but I've never listened to one myself. One of the earliest internet services I remember loving was Pandora because it recommended me artists I never heard on the radio an…

I recently switched off Amazon Music and went back to Pandora (must have started using it in like 2010 and then gone on a 13 or so year long diversion into the on-demand streaming services). I guess it isn’t surprising because it is their core value proposition, but the Pandora discovery algorithm seems so much better than the competition, at least to my ears. I miss the ability to hyper-focus and play an album over…

Pandora was my go-to circa 2007-2009 and I haven't thought about it in years. Looking back, I discovered a disproportionate amount of the music I like in that timeframe... I'm honestly kind of surprised they're still around (and, if I'm reading your comment correctly, haven't morphed into something entirely unrecognizable in the meantime?)

Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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Spotify has financial incentive to obfuscate their UI to tilt people toward mindlessly consuming playlists. This is because labels pay Spotify to put certain songs on large playlists, and Spotify knows playlists are a good habit to push onto their users. Radio was used to discover new music decades ago, but paying a radio station (directly) to play a song is illegal (payola), so DJs had to break new songs, styles, an…

I'm listening to some Amapiano now... and loving it. Care to share some of the other genres you've tried before this one?

My previous genres were dozens of Techno subgenres. Check out the 2023 Coachella lineup. That year had a strong focus on 'World Music'. I went last year and that's how I discovered Amapiano.

If you like Amapiano, check out a song titled 'Ungowami' by Sha Sha

Check out 'Big Flexa' by Costa Titch. Awesome music video too. Huge dance culture in South Africa.

Also check out 'Abo Mvelo' by Daliwonga (this song gets me hype during workouts)

And check out Uncle Waffles' Boiler Room mix. Truly awesome performance.

Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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post #67

From the article: “But 'American Idiot' wasn't a true act of revolution. In fact, the album was produced and promoted by a multinational conglomerate with the intent of packaging seemingly transgressive pop-punk acts for my exact demographic.” This is sort of beside the point of the article, but I was just reading an interview[1] with Billie Joe Armstrong about this album and it doesn’t sound like their process was a…

A video essay about the social impact of American Idiot and similar records from that period: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ehbgAGlrVKE

Been a while but I thought it was pretty interesting when I watched it, coming from a black metal and punk background that was too underground when that pop cultural thing happened to notice.

Re: When do we stop finding new music?

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There’s something biological going here I would think. 30 is about the age where fluid intelligence peaks but crystallized intelligence continues to grow for a few more decades. Also, 30 is about the age where a lot of us come into our own as the person we will more or less be for the rest of our lives. I know for myself that in my teens and twenties, music was part of the process of defining myself. By my early thir…

I'm curious about your experience with older men not playing video games? I'm in my mid-thirties and I would say that the overwhelming majority of my male friends and co-workers play video games recreationally. Video games are more popular and accessible than ever, so I guess I'm confused about why someone would age-out of the hobby?

Re: When do we stop finding new music?

#150

Very difficult with streaming. Rdio used to have a slider to recommend more unusual music. No other service has this that I’ve found. They keep playing the same songs and artist forever.

Pandora has introduced different tunings that help a bit with this. Not a continuous slider but provides some presets to indicate how wide a net to cast in different dimensions. Normal, Crowd Favorites, Deep Cuts, Discovery, Newly Release.
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