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IBM nearing a buyout deal for HashiCorp, source says

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Re: IBM nearing a buyout deal for HashiCorp, source says

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Post by bobo_legos »

andrenth wrote: post #130
nimbius wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please file in a calm and orderly fashion toward the exits and remember: IBM killed Centos for profit. Terraform users can pick up their new alternative here: https://opentofu.org/ and for those of you with Vault, you can find your new alternative here: https://openbao.org/

Is someone working on a Nomad fork?

Off topic but how is Nomad for running production workloads? My org has been wanting to push into containerization, but we're finding the complexity of k8s a high barrier to entry given our small team and lack of in house knowledge.

Re: IBM nearing a buyout deal for HashiCorp, source says

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Post by vram22 »

otterley wrote: post #89
nimbius wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please file in a calm and orderly fashion toward the exits and remember: IBM killed Centos for profit. Terraform users can pick up their new alternative here: https://opentofu.org/ and for those of you with Vault, you can find your new alternative here: https://openbao.org/

> IBM killed Centos for profit. That process began happening long before the IBM acquisition when Red Hat hired Karanbir Singh (CentOS's maintainer) in 2014.

What's the story behind that?

IIRC, I saw something about it on HN at the time, but did not read it, being busy.

Re: IBM nearing a buyout deal for HashiCorp, source says

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Post by tech_tuna »

sylens wrote: post #123

If you were looking to standardize on IaC today, after reading this news - would you go with Terraform or OpenTofu? I honestly can't get a good read on how this will affect the future of Terraform.

OpenTofu. Pulumi is cool especially if you want to run "code" code and not declarative code but Pulumi is in some ways the next Hashicorp. We'll see if they can manage to build a business and not become lame and evil like Hashicorp. OpenTofu is 100% open source.

Honestly, if they built a real scripting engine into OpenTofu, I'd be overjoyed. As it stands though, the declarative code (HCL) isn't the ugliest.

Re: IBM nearing a buyout deal for HashiCorp, source says

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Post by tech_tuna »

fishnchips wrote: post #63
xyst wrote: post #60

Mitchell, one of the co founders, left HashiCorp in December 2023 [1] It’s either terrible timing (missed on more money?) or he knew about it and decided months in advance that it’s not worth the trouble of staying on (ie, look at the aftermath of the RedHat and IBM acquisition). [1] https://www.hashicorp.com/blog/mitchell-reflects-as-he-depar...

Or possibly it’s completely unrelated and it’s just our brains looking for meaning where there’s none.

It's not unrelated. They kicked him out or he just got sick of the company's direction. Or both.

Not a coincidence at all.

Re: IBM nearing a buyout deal for HashiCorp, source says

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Post by Coryodaniel »

tech_tuna wrote: post #143
sylens wrote: post #123

If you were looking to standardize on IaC today, after reading this news - would you go with Terraform or OpenTofu? I honestly can't get a good read on how this will affect the future of Terraform.

OpenTofu. Pulumi is cool especially if you want to run "code" code and not declarative code but Pulumi is in some ways the next Hashicorp. We'll see if they can manage to build a business and not become lame and evil like Hashicorp. OpenTofu is 100% open source. Honestly, if they built a real scripting engine into OpenTofu, I'd be overjoyed. As it stands though, the declarative code (HCL) isn't the ugliest.

Im on team tofu.

Come to the webinar tmrw, not quite a scripting engine but multilang no-custom-provider custom function support

https://www.linkedin.com/posts/opentofuorg_native-lua-more-i...

Apologies for the LI link I’m a startup CEO

Re: IBM nearing a buyout deal for HashiCorp, source says

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Post by dralley »

yencabulator wrote: post #140
dralley wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

>bug-yor-bug compatible with RHEL It was never quite that, but that was the theory. The problem is because it was an exact clone of RHEL, it's somewhere between difficult and impossible to have a proper community around it. Like I said it kind of revolved around "file a bug to Red Hat, wait for someone to pick it up, and then wait more for it to be shipped, which will be months away at best and could be years if it's…

What I've seen people use CentOS for is testing a product intended to run on RHEL. For that, CentOS didn't need a separate community, and bugfixing at a pace different from RHEL would have been actively undesirable.

For that purpose, RHEL is completely free to begin with

Re: IBM nearing a buyout deal for HashiCorp, source says

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Post by hinkley »

pjmlp wrote: post #121
hinkley wrote: post #83

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They did a lot of different experiments with JIT as well, though I don’t know how much made it into other toolchains. In particular J9 was a sort of moral equivalent of PyPy. On the downside they are materially responsible/accomplices to the crimes that are J2EE and XML ALL THE THINGS.

J2EE was created by Sun, based on a Objective-C framework. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distributed_Objects_Everywhe... JSON and YAML keep trying to re-invent the nice tooling ecosystem from XML, badly.

Sun Proposed J2EE (and made a mess of it) but what it is and what it has been had a lot of chefs.

IBM had a lot to do with both XML and J2EE being used in the most Rube Goldbergian senses possible. They didn't invent XML either.

Re: IBM nearing a buyout deal for HashiCorp, source says

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Post by mattl »

dralley wrote: post #146
yencabulator wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What I've seen people use CentOS for is testing a product intended to run on RHEL. For that, CentOS didn't need a separate community, and bugfixing at a pace different from RHEL would have been actively undesirable.

For that purpose, RHEL is completely free to begin with

Yeah RHEL has had a gratis developer license from their website for maybe a decade now?

Before that I would pay $49 a year for it.

Re: IBM nearing a buyout deal for HashiCorp, source says

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Post by ruraljuror »

ThinkBeat wrote: post #88

It is hard to figure out what IBM is anymore and their profile /strategy is. They make totally awesome mainframes, which are spectacularly expensive and tends to be existing customers updating than new companies buying them. All the research and engineering that they put into the mainframes is astounding. They remain a critical part of a vast number of financial transactions in the world. I keep hoping companies will…

“Red Hat goes into the cloud” sounds like something that hasn’t happened yet. IBM bought red hat (largest historical software acquisition at the time) due to its position in hybrid cloud.
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