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Re: Meta Horizon OS

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Post by yuck39 »

bagels wrote: post #133
idle_zealot wrote: post #53

"Open platform" my ass. I still have to jump through ridiculous hoops to mod BeatSaber (which is the only way to make it worth playing for more than a few minutes). Quest 3 makes modding even harder. This announcement is trying to frame App Lab as an open app distribution platform; it isn't. Those "basic technical and content requirements" apps have to meet are basically the same ones that Apple or Google or Meta the…

Why can't you play BeatSaber without mods?

The out of the box track selection is quite weak. The game depends on community made tracks to make it playable in the long term.

Re: Meta Horizon OS

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Post by alt227 »

neural_thing wrote: post #102

Very strange how many people are here to dunk on Zuck. He's opening up an OS. THAT'S AWESOME! We should celebrate that in principle, no matter how we feel about him or VR in general.

Dont be fooled by the marketing language.

All they are doing is allowing some companies to pay them billions of dollars to put meta onto their own headsets. Similar to how Valve allowed a few companies to put SteamOS onto their own hardware to create 'Steam Machines'.

I cant think of a single time in history when this tactic has worked. and made a product or brand more successful. Please correct me if I am wrong.

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Post by LZ_Khan »

woopsn wrote: post #109

I know I'm fighting the overwhelming tide here, but what the hell is "mixed reality"? What is "the metaverse"? For that matter what is "artificial intelligence"? Stop trying to dazzle and just use words, if the technology is revolutionary then it will be. An automobile is not the magic carpet, a cell phone is not a soulmate, etc. Otherwise fuck it -- TV is virtual reality, getting high augmented reality, TI-84 calcul…

I think "mixed reality" is the marketing term for augmented reality. Easier to understand for some people.

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Post by munk-a »

bagels wrote: post #133
idle_zealot wrote: post #53

"Open platform" my ass. I still have to jump through ridiculous hoops to mod BeatSaber (which is the only way to make it worth playing for more than a few minutes). Quest 3 makes modding even harder. This announcement is trying to frame App Lab as an open app distribution platform; it isn't. Those "basic technical and content requirements" apps have to meet are basically the same ones that Apple or Google or Meta the…

Why can't you play BeatSaber without mods?

You can - it's just far less fun than BeatSaber with mods. The biggest improvement is from being able to select from the community list of songs that are available that may better suit your taste than the songs that come built in. It's a rhythm game so using a rhythm you like makes it much more fun.

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Post by pavlov »

Shades of Apple licensing the Mac OS to clone hardware vendors in 1995 - 1997. It seems like Meta will be controlling the software experience quite closely, just like Apple did back in the day.

There’s an important difference though: Apple made all their money on Mac hardware margins which the nimble clone vendors could undercut. Whereas for Meta, the Quest hardware has always been sold at breakeven or even as a loss leader (a few years ago they actually raised the price of the Quest 2 to cut further losses).

So there’s no kind of existential danger to Quest here, but it remains to be seen if the hardware licensees can bring anything relevant to the table either.

Re: Meta Horizon OS

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Post by idle_zealot »

bagels wrote: post #133
idle_zealot wrote: post #53

"Open platform" my ass. I still have to jump through ridiculous hoops to mod BeatSaber (which is the only way to make it worth playing for more than a few minutes). Quest 3 makes modding even harder. This announcement is trying to frame App Lab as an open app distribution platform; it isn't. Those "basic technical and content requirements" apps have to meet are basically the same ones that Apple or Google or Meta the…

Why can't you play BeatSaber without mods?

Lack of any songs I actually care about, and the actual note mapping from the devs has been pretty bad up until recently. The modding community has had them beat for ages. Without mods the game would be a breif curiosity before I got bored with the provided songs, most of which don't suit my taste.

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Post by TeMPOraL »

bagels wrote: post #133
idle_zealot wrote: post #53

"Open platform" my ass. I still have to jump through ridiculous hoops to mod BeatSaber (which is the only way to make it worth playing for more than a few minutes). Quest 3 makes modding even harder. This announcement is trying to frame App Lab as an open app distribution platform; it isn't. Those "basic technical and content requirements" apps have to meet are basically the same ones that Apple or Google or Meta the…

Why can't you play BeatSaber without mods?

Mind that "mods" includes "custom tracks".

OG BeatSaber comes with a small-ish selection of tracks, most of them obscure and not generally known. Good or bad, they get boring quickly. Modding lets you expand to arbitrary number of tracks, including pretty much all the ones you like. It's what makes it fun and worth returning to. Not being able to add your own music, makes BeatSaber not worth the sticker price (much less if you're getting Oculus just to play it).

Also note that people were used to this capability, because before BeatSaber became a poster child for Oculus, it was streamed to other headsets from PC, where adding custom tracks was tacitly allowed.

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Post by what_ever »

pavlov wrote: post #68

> “Meta Horizon OS devices will also use the same mobile companion app that Meta Quest owners use today—we’ll rename this as the Meta Horizon app.” Churning through so many VR brands. The app that used to be called Oculus and is now called Meta Quest will soon be called Meta Horizon. If Meta really believes in the Metaverse, why do they need the Horizon brand? Why not just the Meta OS?

Because their whole company is called Meta?

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Post by zem »

hackcasual wrote: post #131
idle_zealot wrote: post #53

"Open platform" my ass. I still have to jump through ridiculous hoops to mod BeatSaber (which is the only way to make it worth playing for more than a few minutes). Quest 3 makes modding even harder. This announcement is trying to frame App Lab as an open app distribution platform; it isn't. Those "basic technical and content requirements" apps have to meet are basically the same ones that Apple or Google or Meta the…

Modded beat saber is the only reason I still have kept my original quest

I was half tempted to get a quest after playing beat saber on a friend's device. it's kind of amazing how much better it is than the next best thing you could do on one, some team just knocked it out of the park designing and implementing that game
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