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Re: Please don't let gaming consume your life

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Post by derleth »

cletus wrote: post #71

I've had conversations on similar aspects to this many times. There are many psychological issues involved but the highlights are: 1. People eat for many reasons, sustenance being only one. People eat for enjoyment, because they're happy, because they're sad, to deal with stress, as a substitute for something else arguably more destructive and so on. The sooner you can adjust your mental view to treating food as noth…

> The sooner you can adjust your mental view to treating food as nothing more than fuel, the better off you'll be

The only reason I can imagine you'd have this idea is if you're operating under the mistaken assumption that "healthy food" and "food that you can enjoy" are mutually-exclusive categories.

This ties into a lot of quasi-religious crap surrounding diet in general, which makes every fad diet an orthodoxy complete with demonic outsiders (foods absolutely prohibited and made to seem inherently unhealthy), canonized sacraments (foods that are held up as perfect and beyond reproach), and the sin-guilt-redemption cycle.

Nonsense.

You can lose weight eating Twinkies if you mind your caloric intake and burn more than you consume. (You'll have to watch your nutrient intake as well, but that's a given. You always need to do that to some extent.) Therefore, you can eat good foods in the right amounts and it'll work. You'll also be more inclined to stay on the diet and make it a true lifestyle change.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/HEALTH/11/08/twinkie.diet.professor/...

http://articles.latimes.com/2010/dec/06/health/la-he-fitness...

Re: Please don't let gaming consume your life

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Post by [deleted] »

cletus wrote: post #71

I've had conversations on similar aspects to this many times. There are many psychological issues involved but the highlights are: 1. People eat for many reasons, sustenance being only one. People eat for enjoyment, because they're happy, because they're sad, to deal with stress, as a substitute for something else arguably more destructive and so on. The sooner you can adjust your mental view to treating food as noth…

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Re: Please don't let gaming consume your life

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Post by ulisesrmzroche »

cletus wrote: post #71

I've had conversations on similar aspects to this many times. There are many psychological issues involved but the highlights are: 1. People eat for many reasons, sustenance being only one. People eat for enjoyment, because they're happy, because they're sad, to deal with stress, as a substitute for something else arguably more destructive and so on. The sooner you can adjust your mental view to treating food as noth…

The only thing you really get from being one of those "food is fuel" folks is a lot of other folks making fun of you and not inviting you to "Ravioli Night".

You don't wanna be that guy.

Re: Please don't let gaming consume your life

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Post by forgottenpaswrd »

cletus wrote: post #71

I've had conversations on similar aspects to this many times. There are many psychological issues involved but the highlights are: 1. People eat for many reasons, sustenance being only one. People eat for enjoyment, because they're happy, because they're sad, to deal with stress, as a substitute for something else arguably more destructive and so on. The sooner you can adjust your mental view to treating food as noth…

"The sooner you can adjust your mental view to treating food as nothing more than fuel, the better off you'll be"

Not true. This is a mechanistic approach to life, we are not machine copies. Machines are copies from us, witch is different.

A machine can not repair itself or reproduce or protect itself against the aggressions of the environment.

What you eat is not just fuel, but way way more complex. You eat proteins so you get aminoacids, vitamins, minerals, oils and water. If you don't eat some specific materials in specific proportions you die, no matter how many calories you give it(energy or "fuel").

E.g you could give your body too much omega 6 fat (cheap to industrial manufacture) over omega 3 fat and your body will start working very bad.

In my experience traveling around the world, the anglo speaking world has no idea what eating well means. Eating for enjoyment does not mean eating pizza, hamburgers or hot dogs, there is tons of healthy food around the world that is simply delicious(look for ancient cultures).

Re: Please don't let gaming consume your life

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forgottenpaswrd wrote: post #144
cletus wrote: post #71

I've had conversations on similar aspects to this many times. There are many psychological issues involved but the highlights are: 1. People eat for many reasons, sustenance being only one. People eat for enjoyment, because they're happy, because they're sad, to deal with stress, as a substitute for something else arguably more destructive and so on. The sooner you can adjust your mental view to treating food as noth…

"The sooner you can adjust your mental view to treating food as nothing more than fuel, the better off you'll be" Not true. This is a mechanistic approach to life, we are not machine copies. Machines are copies from us, witch is different. A machine can not repair itself or reproduce or protect itself against the aggressions of the environment. What you eat is not just fuel, but way way more complex. You eat proteins…

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Re: Please don't let gaming consume your life

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Post by gghootch »

cletus wrote: post #71

I've had conversations on similar aspects to this many times. There are many psychological issues involved but the highlights are: 1. People eat for many reasons, sustenance being only one. People eat for enjoyment, because they're happy, because they're sad, to deal with stress, as a substitute for something else arguably more destructive and so on. The sooner you can adjust your mental view to treating food as noth…

"The sooner you can adjust your mental view to treating food as nothing more than fuel, the better off you'll be;" I am like this. Trust me, it is not that enjoyable. There are two major downside: 1. 90% of all food tastes meh. I seldom go a day without having eaten something I truly enjoyed. 2. You start eating too little, because you feel you haven't exactly run out of fuel just yet. Two can be particularly dangerous, at times I have almost fainted because of it. I truly recommend against training yourself this way.

Re: Please don't let gaming consume your life

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Post by eliben »

cletus wrote: post #71

I've had conversations on similar aspects to this many times. There are many psychological issues involved but the highlights are: 1. People eat for many reasons, sustenance being only one. People eat for enjoyment, because they're happy, because they're sad, to deal with stress, as a substitute for something else arguably more destructive and so on. The sooner you can adjust your mental view to treating food as noth…

Having kids also helps you with the "walking" aspect. A daily walk around the 'hood with a stroller, and at a later age combined with some "culture-dependent ball game" time, gives you some "free" opportunities to burn them calories.

P.S. besides, with kids you'll have no time for video games, so that's a solution from another angle ;-)

Re: Please don't let gaming consume your life

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Post by roel_v »

surement wrote: post #98
cletus wrote: post #71

I've had conversations on similar aspects to this many times. There are many psychological issues involved but the highlights are: 1. People eat for many reasons, sustenance being only one. People eat for enjoyment, because they're happy, because they're sad, to deal with stress, as a substitute for something else arguably more destructive and so on. The sooner you can adjust your mental view to treating food as noth…

"The sooner you can adjust your mental view to treating food as nothing more than fuel, the better off you'll be" Better off how? Eating for enjoyment is one of the best pleasures in life. To quote someone else, if you spend your life eating no butter, no lard, no salt; you're gonna feel like a damn fool lying on your hospital bed, dying from nothing.

If your epitome of culinary pleasure is butter, lard and salt, you need to start dining somewhere else.

(while I agree with you that eating can be a great pleasure, one can simultaneously enjoy great food every single day and not look like Jabba the Hutt).

Re: Please don't let gaming consume your life

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Post by forgottenpaswrd »

daeken wrote: post #101
surement wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"The sooner you can adjust your mental view to treating food as nothing more than fuel, the better off you'll be" Better off how? Eating for enjoyment is one of the best pleasures in life. To quote someone else, if you spend your life eating no butter, no lard, no salt; you're gonna feel like a damn fool lying on your hospital bed, dying from nothing.

As mentioned earlier, I am waaaaaaaay overweight. That, of course, means that I'm at risk for heart disease, diabetes, and all that jazz. So when I found myself sitting in my chair with shooting pains and numbness in my left arm, and severe chest pain, my first thought was "well shit, time to call 911 because I'm having a heart attack". To make a long story short, the actual cause of the symptoms I felt was a combina…

I love butter too and I weight 80kg, I am very tall(basket player level tall). None of those problems.

40 years ago Americans used to eat lots of butter and fats(way more than today) and they were fit.

My advice is:

Forget about eating sugar, not fat. Fat is natural, we had eaten it since man is man, fat is in animals with the meat and all tribes everywere(From Papua New Guinea to the Amazon) have horrible histories about those that did not eat fat(because those that do not become ill as fat is essential for the immune system and heart, among others) .

Refined sugar is not natural, you should buy fruit as it has antioxidants and lots of fiber so you don't become addicted to sugar(fiber reduces your sugar blood concentration orders of magnitude).

Never mix sugar with fat, if you do add lots of fiber, like lettuce or broccoli or fruit(if you don't like them, make an habit and you will like it over time).

Replace refined rice or wheat or corn (flours) with entire grains(integral cereals). They are ugly but way more healthy.

Learn to cook yourself. It took years for you to get where you are and you need to understand that you need years to get out. Don't try miracles but learn how to get healthy step by step.

Re: Please don't let gaming consume your life

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Post by forgottenpaswrd »

daeken wrote: post #101
surement wrote: post #98

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"The sooner you can adjust your mental view to treating food as nothing more than fuel, the better off you'll be" Better off how? Eating for enjoyment is one of the best pleasures in life. To quote someone else, if you spend your life eating no butter, no lard, no salt; you're gonna feel like a damn fool lying on your hospital bed, dying from nothing.

As mentioned earlier, I am waaaaaaaay overweight. That, of course, means that I'm at risk for heart disease, diabetes, and all that jazz. So when I found myself sitting in my chair with shooting pains and numbness in my left arm, and severe chest pain, my first thought was "well shit, time to call 911 because I'm having a heart attack". To make a long story short, the actual cause of the symptoms I felt was a combina…

PD: Oh, and forget about the stupid "calories in, calories out" non sense. Your body is not a Bunsen burner. Your body could take what it needs(and let the remain on your waste) and calories are not equal(even different sugars have completely different metabolism pathways).

Also eat five times a day and never fast.

Better: get a mentor that really knows, not a person that just has a title but someone that has result under her belt.

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