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M 4.8 – 2024 Whitehouse Station, New Jersey Earthquake

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Re: M 4.8 – 2024 Whitehouse Station, New Jersey Earthquake

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Sure, but at some point, you have to be told what "duck, cover, hold" actually means. Your comment as the first comment someone hears is like a news article using acronyms throughout the article without ever expanding the acronym.

It’s the first thing we teach new arrivals to California along with “stop, drop, and toll” and what real Mexican food tastes like.

> “stop, drop, and toll”

In California, even saving yourself from being on fire is taxed.

Re: M 4.8 – 2024 Whitehouse Station, New Jersey Earthquake

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Holy shit what a ride! Sitting at home in my office in Ozone Park NYC and I hear what I think is a low flying plane coming in to JFK. Happens when weather is bad and they come in lower they can rattle my windows. But the intensity grew suddenly and my entire house was shaking and everything was rattling. At first I froze for a few seconds as I could not make sense of what I was experiencing - but it was clear this wa…

I've never been in an earthquake it's got to be such a strange thing to experience the first time.

Hearing tornado sirens for the first time was wild, especially as a Silent Hill fan.

On the other hand my friend moved to Brooklyn from Haiti after their terrible quake so he's in a mood right now.

Re: M 4.8 – 2024 Whitehouse Station, New Jersey Earthquake

#143

I'm in Brooklyn and felt it while on a call with an NJ resident who was the first to say "are we having an earthquake??" Do earthquakes have a propagation speed? Might she have felt it before me?

Sure given the epicenter was in NJ and closer than Brooklyn. I am from Brooklyn, but live in Nyack, NY, and I felt it here. Nyack is 40mi from epicenter, Brooklyn ~60mi. But your experience could be different based on the structure you are in, floor elevation, and existing soil and ground conditions.

Re: M 4.8 – 2024 Whitehouse Station, New Jersey Earthquake

#144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The standard advice now taught in California schools is "Duck, cover, hold." Basically everything that parent poster said, but in a pithy 3-word aphorism you're more likely to remember.

Sure, but at some point, you have to be told what "duck, cover, hold" actually means. Your comment as the first comment someone hears is like a news article using acronyms throughout the article without ever expanding the acronym.

It's relatively self-explanatory. The full expansion would be "Duck under a table or other rigid object. Cover your head. Hold on."

Re: M 4.8 – 2024 Whitehouse Station, New Jersey Earthquake

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Felt that very strongly in southern Westchester county NY. Not like the 2011 earthquake I felt in NYC, which was kind of slow and made the building I was in sway violently; this was more like the vibrations from a huge truck passing nearby, but more intense. Loud and very unpleasant, about 15 seconds duration. Did not like that at all, am now inspecting all our services like gas and water for disruption, checking for…

There actually was a large truck coming down my block in Brooklyn at the same time it started and it took me a second to realize that no, it actually was an earthquake. And I definitely agree, the 2011 one was more of a sway, this felt like a rumble.

I'm on Long Island and there was a train passing at the same time.

Re: M 4.8 – 2024 Whitehouse Station, New Jersey Earthquake

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post #82

For those of you who didn't grow up in earthquake country, some tips: DO NOT get into a doorway, that's a myth. It's not a terrible place to be if it's a doorless frame, but if there is a door, it's more likely you get injured from the door smacking you than the earthquake. DO get under a strong table. That's the safest place to be in a quake if it happens when you are indoors. If you're outside get as far away from…

You forgot the advice of "don't run outside from a building." In the US, most buildings are going to be fine structurally; however, the facade of the building or glass, etc., may fall off.

In other parts of the world, it'll depend on the local building codes and their enforcement.

Re: M 4.8 – 2024 Whitehouse Station, New Jersey Earthquake

#147

Curious about the 4.7 vs 4.8. Official source here says 4.8 but title says 4.7. APNews did something similar showing 4.8 in the headline but 4.7 in the text. Coincidentally the depth is 4.7 km. Wonder if there's just a transpose error and a lot of copy/paste.

Earthquake magnitude usually changes a bunch in the first hour or two as new data comes in. For example some of the data comes from stations on the other side of the planet, and it takes a while for the wave to propagate that far.

That's one possible explanation, though I've been on usgs.gov a lot from the first I heard of this, and I've only ever seen 4.8 on it. Odd, also that the OP sharing this shared a link to 4.8 but put 4.7 in the title. But the text on that page might trick your eye, between "M 4.8 - 7 km N" and "Magnitude 4.8 mwr Depth 4.7 km".

Re: M 4.8 – 2024 Whitehouse Station, New Jersey Earthquake

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post #107
post #82

For those of you who didn't grow up in earthquake country, some tips: DO NOT get into a doorway, that's a myth. It's not a terrible place to be if it's a doorless frame, but if there is a door, it's more likely you get injured from the door smacking you than the earthquake. DO get under a strong table. That's the safest place to be in a quake if it happens when you are indoors. If you're outside get as far away from…

I suppose depending on the structure and the individual's inclination strong table might be a good call. But in my single family home situation it really doesn't take more than a few seconds and I can be out the door provided I'm not knocked off my feet entirely type situation.

Being out the door is usually riskier than being inside a wood-frame SFH. You're exposed to falling trees, branches, power lines, and roof debris, as well as unsecured cars or other loose items. Wood-framed 1-2 story SFHs almost never collapse in an earthquake; the wood can bend to absorb the shock, and there's a lot of redundancy in the studs, and not a whole lot of weight on floors above you.

Re: M 4.8 – 2024 Whitehouse Station, New Jersey Earthquake

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I'm in Brooklyn and felt it while on a call with an NJ resident who was the first to say "are we having an earthquake??" Do earthquakes have a propagation speed? Might she have felt it before me?

People in my town in southern NH reported feeling it about 20 minutes after it happened

Re: M 4.8 – 2024 Whitehouse Station, New Jersey Earthquake

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I felt that (I live on Long Island). I thought it was construction vehicles. We've had a lot of heavy construction around here. What made it clear it was different, was my cat didn't like it, and he ignores the construction.

Speaking of cats and earthquakes, I just watched: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJ-p9qOhBv4 ...again. This is a Cat Cafe in Japan, and you can clearly see the cats get alerted to something ~10 seconds before the shaking starts. Do we have an idea of what they are reacting to?

Huh. You do hear about animals reacting before earthquakes. My cat did alert before the quake, but didn't really scoot, until the shaking started.

He was sitting on my lap, at the time. I'm glad he didn't extend his claws.

I suspect some kind of subsonics that come before the shaking really gets going. It can take a bit of time to get a rhythm going, so the earthquake may actually be under way for a bit, before we really feel it.

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