Very annoying - the apparent author of the backdoor was in communication with me over several weeks trying to get xz 5.6.x added to Fedora 40 & 41 because of it's "great new features". We even worked with him to fix the valgrind issue (which it turns out now was caused by the backdoor he had added). We had to race last night to fix the problem after an inadvertent break of the embargo. He has been part of the xz proj…
Backdoor in upstream xz/liblzma leading to SSH server compromise
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Re: Backdoor in upstream xz/liblzma leading to SSH server compromise
#142I've long since said that if you want to hide something nefarious you'd do that in the GNU autoconf soup (and not in "curl | sh" scripts). Would be interesting to see what's going on here; the person who did the releases has done previous releases too (are they affected?) And has commits going back to 2022 – relatively recent, but not that recent. Many are real commits with real changes, and they have commits on some…
I mean, a backdoor at this scale (particularly if it wasn't noticed for a while and got into stable distros) could be worth millions. Maybe hundreds of millions (think of the insider trading possibilities alone, not to mention espionage). 2 years doesn't seem like that much work relative to the potential pay off. This is the sort of case where america's over the top hacking laws make sense.
Re: Backdoor in upstream xz/liblzma leading to SSH server compromise
#143Re: Backdoor in upstream xz/liblzma leading to SSH server compromise
#144That's completely crazy, the backdoor is introduced through a very cryptic addition to the configure script. Just looking at the diff, it doesn't look malicious at all, it looks like build script gibberish.
A big part of the problem is all the tooling around git (like the default github UI) which hides diffs for binary files like these pseudo-"test" files. Makes them an ideal place to hide exploit data since comparatively few people would bother opening a hex editor manually.
Re: Backdoor in upstream xz/liblzma leading to SSH server compromise
#145Earlier quoted context omitted.
I don't want to read too much into it, but the person (supposedly) submitting the PR seems to work at 1Password since December last year, as per his Linkedin. (And his Linkedin page has a link to the Github profile that made the PR).
Yeah the GitHub account looks really really legitimate. Maybe it was compromised though?
Re: Backdoor in upstream xz/liblzma leading to SSH server compromise
#146Yikes! Do you have any info on the individual's background or possible motivations?
Looks more likely a fake identity than compromised account.
Re: Backdoor in upstream xz/liblzma leading to SSH server compromise
#147For those panicking, here are some key things to look for, based on the writeup: - A very recent version of liblzma5 - 5.6.0 or 5.6.1. This was added in the last month or so. If you're not on a rolling release distro, your version is probably older. - A debian or RPM based distro of Linux on x86_64. In an apparent attempt to make reverse engineering harder, it does not seem to apply when built outside of deb or rpm p…
The article gives a link to a simple shell script that detects the signature of the compromised function. > Running OpenSSH sshd from systemd I think this is irrelevant. From the article: "Initially starting sshd outside of systemd did not show the slowdown, despite the backdoor briefly getting invoked." If I understand correctly the whole section, the behavior of OpenSSH may have differed when launched from systemd,…
It looks like the backdoor "deactivates" itself when it detects being started interactively, as a security researcher might. I was eventually able to circumvent that, but unless you do so, it'll not be active when started interactively.
However, the backdoor would also be active if you started it with an shell script (as the traditional sys-v rc scripts did) outside the context of an interactive shell, as TERM wouldn't be set either in that context.
> Maybe some distributions that don't use systemd strip the libxz code from the upstream OpenSSH release, but I wouldn't bet on it if a fix is available.
There's no xz code in openssh.
Re: Backdoor in upstream xz/liblzma leading to SSH server compromise
#148Is the solution against such attacks in the future only to scrutinize more, or are there other reasonable options in terms of hardening?
The lesson here seems to not depend on tools written in languages that have complex, obscure build systems and no one is either able or interested to read. Using tools rewritten in Rust, Go or any other languege which resolves dependencies within project seems the only way to do hardening here.
Re: Backdoor in upstream xz/liblzma leading to SSH server compromise
#149Very annoying - the apparent author of the backdoor was in communication with me over several weeks trying to get xz 5.6.x added to Fedora 40 & 41 because of it's "great new features". We even worked with him to fix the valgrind issue (which it turns out now was caused by the backdoor he had added). We had to race last night to fix the problem after an inadvertent break of the embargo. He has been part of the xz proj…
I think this has been in the making for almost a year. The whole ifunc infrastructure was added in June 2023 by Hans Jansen and Jia Tan. The initial patch is "authored by" Lasse Collin in the git metadata, but the code actually came from Hans Jansen: https://github.com/tukaani-project/xz/commit/ee44863ae88e377... > Thanks to Hans Jansen for the original patch. https://github.com/tukaani-project/xz/pull/53 There were…