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Almost as if he's human. Better replace him with a bolshevik committee!
I love how some people see holding others accountable as communism. And by love I mean it’s an incredibly stupid and toxic attitude.
Real-time map of every Starlink satellite in orbit
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#142Wow, I knew Starlink had an enormous constellation, but visualizing it like that really empathizes the scope. Would be cool if one day you could get your connectivity needs handled by a single company cheaply, almost anywhere in the world, without bothering about new contracts, moving cities or country borders.
>>Would be cool if one day you could get your connectivity needs handled by a single company cheaply, almost anywhere in the world That sounds like an absolute distopian nightmare and the last person on earth that I want to be running this service is Elon Musk. In general I find it horrendous how a single american company can pollute the night sky for every human being in the world, whether they can use their service…
>That sounds like an absolute distopian nightmare and the last person on earth that I want to be running this service is Elon Musk.
Given that Musk was the only person with the ambition, capital, and ability to deliver such a project, you're basically saying that you'd rather have Starlink not exist at all than to have Musk in charge.
>it's an incredible feat - and yet I still think it's a travesty that it's allowed to exist at all.
Confirmed: You'd rather have every Starlink customer go dark than have someone you've been told to dislike provide those customers with a service they willingly sign up for.
Dystopia, indeed.
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#143This is wild. I had no idea of the scope of Starlink satellites in orbit. What is the life cycle of one of these satellites? How long do they last in orbit? Can they be controlled where they crash land down? How many different versions of the satellites are in orbit? I wonder how often they have their software updated and what happens in the failure state of an unsuccessful update?
They have a lifespan of about 5 years, the limit is the amount of maneuvering propellant to compensate for atmospheric drag they have on board. Next gen, which will be launched by the much larger Starship, may have a lot more propellant. Most are in a five year orbit. This means that if SpaceX loses control of the satellite it will deorbit in five years due to atmospheric drag. Under control they deorbit within hours…
Thank you! This is very interesting to read. I'll have to do some more research myself.
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This is a bad take. There are plenty of regulatory bodies that control what SpaceX is allowed to do. The satellites are not visible to the eye in their operational orbits and are incredibly tiny compared to the vastness of space. Their depiction here is thousands of times larger than actual size.
There are 7.8 billion people on earth. 7.5 billion of them had no say at all, and 0.33 billion of them had a tiny say via elected representatives who wrote the laws before starlink was even envisioned. I'm pretty sure if a global vote was held on the question of "Would you like to have 10,000 satellites launched so you have the option of paying a US company for broadband anywhere in the world?", the vote outcome woul…
This is literally how it has been since the start of the space age. For people outside of the US or Russia, not having any say in what happens in space is normal. The only difference here is that Americans are surprised when they themselves have to go through the same thing, but even then the American government has full control of starlink for all intents and purposes.
It's always funny to me when I see this "7.8 billion people didn't choose a private corporation", as if they chose the american government lol.
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Almost as if he's human. Better replace him with a bolshevik committee!
What the Frick.
Yes we are all human. But I think there's a massive demonstrable difference between human beings as to their consistency over time and humility In acknowledging it. To learn and to change is noble! But with some people it seems more of being fickle than actual learning and changing.
The Bolshevik committee thing, I cannot even behind to parse. I think some people have such internal strong opinions and anger and constant mental fights with some perceived other devil side, that random unconnected bits just spew out occasionally into real world discussions. Are we going to add words nazi and woke and socialist to this as well? :(
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#146Why is there such a sudden drop off in satellite density over 53°N ?
Satellites launched in a polar orbit only cover polar areas. It's more cost effective to design orbits with more area and customers under them.
Polar orbits cover the entire Earth, like all other low orbits, in fact, they cover more than any other orbit. And there are people up there: all of Northern Europe and Alaska, and most of the UK, Russia and Canada.
I am sure there is a good reason, but it surprised me too. I expected more polar orbits, like Iridium.
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#147I want a realtime version of this for my lockscreen! Very impressive.
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#148> The Starlink constellation could serve up to 188,160 MB/sec to Earth. Does that feel very slow to anyone else?
So 100Mbps for ~16k people. Barely useful. I can only ever see it being useful for real rural people, who don't get any 4G signal, but these people might also not want to pay the crazy subscription fees or $500+ for the equipment. I don't see any reason why anyone living in or <100km near a city would ever want this. 5G mobile can already provide 500Mbps and fiber is just unbeatable. At least the night sky was ruined…
I went to https://www.starlink.com/map to see coverage you can see that dark areas marked by political boundaries, not physical: Venezuela, Cuba, China, Russia, Makes you think.
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#149Wow, I knew Starlink had an enormous constellation, but visualizing it like that really empathizes the scope. Would be cool if one day you could get your connectivity needs handled by a single company cheaply, almost anywhere in the world, without bothering about new contracts, moving cities or country borders.
>>Would be cool if one day you could get your connectivity needs handled by a single company cheaply, almost anywhere in the world That sounds like an absolute distopian nightmare and the last person on earth that I want to be running this service is Elon Musk. In general I find it horrendous how a single american company can pollute the night sky for every human being in the world, whether they can use their service…
> pollute the night sky
That pollution is much much less than the light pollution from cities and aircraft (both visual and noise).
If we’re going to care about pollution of the night sky it seems more effective to take on those cases that are already very intrusive.
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#150Wow, I knew Starlink had an enormous constellation, but visualizing it like that really empathizes the scope. Would be cool if one day you could get your connectivity needs handled by a single company cheaply, almost anywhere in the world, without bothering about new contracts, moving cities or country borders.
> Would be cool if one day you could get your connectivity needs handled by a single company cheaply, almost anywhere in the world
You already can.
Tons of people driving the Pan-American Highway from Alaska to Argentina are using Starlink now - it works flawlessly no matter what country you're in.
Same for people driving around Africa, across Central Asia, etc.
Pro Tip - order it in a country like Mexico and the monthly fee is way lower.