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Scammed by the top result for 'Bitcoin wallet' in Apple App Store

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Re: Scammed by the top result for 'Bitcoin wallet' in Apple App Store

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Post by rchaud »

secsubsc wrote: post #101

I am in India and I can see the app on top spot (marked as Ad) when I search for Bitcoin Wallet. My theory is, they paid for an Ad in a specific region and hence it started showing on top, people started downloading in that region, and that boosted the overall ranking for that app and hence people from other regions are seeing it among top results, even though its not an Ad there. Irrespective of the rating or freshn…

and in this scenario, Apple has no incentive to stamp this out as they make money either way.

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Post by nojvek »

App Store is as scammy as Google play store.

Apple vets every app through their review team but it’s a shit show of inconsistency.

Apple’s wall garden doesn’t do much other than rent seeking.

I got scammed in an ethereum site back in the day. Wasn’t a big loss but it was the straw that broke camel’s back.

If it was my credit card, I would have been refunded. Coinbase did fuck all, couldn’t even reach a real human.

I sold all my crypto a few months later.

Crypto and stock market move in tandem. Crypto has much higher trading fees. Fidelity gives me zero fees.

From a value investing perspective, crypto was a bad and unsafe investment.

I agree that folks who got in 10 years early made a fortune, but last few years have lackluster growth.

Re: Scammed by the top result for 'Bitcoin wallet' in Apple App Store

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Post by pg_1234 »

a1o wrote: post #94
Rodmine wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> scammy ads plastered everywhere is what I'd expect from Google products This won’t fit with the manufactured popular understanding, but at the current time, Google protects you from fraud and scam better than anyone. I have been unfortunate enough to be scammed recently from a bing search result (ad). (It was a new computer and I decided to use Edge and bing was the default search). Apple, Microsoft etc. are rookie…

This is true. Btw, the macOS app store is also full of products that you really shouldn't use and most of software you really should use have alternate ways that you buy them going through their website and get something so that you can install. Microsoft Office, JetBrains IDEs and Adobe products all will install and update without you having to go through the macOS Appstore.

Doesn't Apples current dispute with the EU hinge on the argument by Apple that keeping their App Store locked down protects customers from scams?

Re: Scammed by the top result for 'Bitcoin wallet' in Apple App Store

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Post by yunwal »

gumby wrote: post #137
yunwal wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple built up a really strong brand by not doing this kind of thing for a while. They get to charge twice as much money for half as much performance because they made sure their products felt nice and intuitive to use. Now they’re willing to destroy the most valuable brand in the world to make crypto money? It makes absolutely no sense, even accounting for greed. Also, I’m sure this kind of thing hurts their prospec…

> Apple … get to charge twice as much money for half as much performance… Has this ever really been the case?

Maybe I should say half as much hardware. Performance is too subjective. But nobody else can charge $800 for an extra 64g of ram. My point is their thoughtfulness about their ecosystem is what allows them to de-commodify their hardware. There’s a price for RAM, and a price for RAM in an Apple computer.

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Post by burnerthrow008 »

joquarky wrote: post #135
seanhunter wrote: post #118

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I don't recognize this picture at all. Even if you aren't distinguishing between ads and search results I'm not seeing scams as adverts but there may be a difference between the UK and US app stores in this respect perhaps. For me on apple UK app store: my bank - Ad: another legit bank. First result: my bank Train company - Ad: a generic legit train booking app. First result: the train company My broker - Ad: another…

At what point do we recognize marketing as a sociological disease?

The point where we admit that HN is the patient.

A longtime HN commenter just switched to iOS? Seriously?

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Post by a1o »

pg_1234 wrote: post #144
a1o wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is true. Btw, the macOS app store is also full of products that you really shouldn't use and most of software you really should use have alternate ways that you buy them going through their website and get something so that you can install. Microsoft Office, JetBrains IDEs and Adobe products all will install and update without you having to go through the macOS Appstore.

Doesn't Apples current dispute with the EU hinge on the argument by Apple that keeping their App Store locked down protects customers from scams?

I don't remember, but the macOS apps distributed without the Appstore also require all the Apple dev dance of signing, notarization and paid developer account and all...

Re: Scammed by the top result for 'Bitcoin wallet' in Apple App Store

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Post by ipaddr »

mvolfik wrote: post #122
Rodmine wrote: post #77

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> scammy ads plastered everywhere is what I'd expect from Google products This won’t fit with the manufactured popular understanding, but at the current time, Google protects you from fraud and scam better than anyone. I have been unfortunate enough to be scammed recently from a bing search result (ad). (It was a new computer and I decided to use Edge and bing was the default search). Apple, Microsoft etc. are rookie…

> Google protects you from fraud and scam better than anyone I have to disagree. Czech Youtube is currently full of scam ads with photos (and sometimes even bad deepfakes) of Czech president and other public figures, supposedly endorsing some investment product that yields you like 50% profit. I keep reporting these, and I know some people who do too, but ~80% of those reports get handled as "we determined no violati…

How related is a youtube video in Czech showing up in your preferred videos with Apple store's first search being a scam
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