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Epic says Apple will reinstate developer account

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Re: Epic says Apple will reinstate developer account

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> A childish move, unexpected from such a company like apple especially with timing. Especially when you add the failed PWA move before, they're starting to look pretty bad.

Serious question, what PWAs are worth using on Android that don't work on iOS?

It's not about whether it's worth using, it's about having the mere option of building an app without the overhead of paying developer fees to Apple.

Re: Epic says Apple will reinstate developer account

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Not trying to start a flame war, I'm asking this earnestly. Where does this command over hardware (USB-C mandate), software (sideloading/AppStore), and prices (recent 2bn decision) end?

You want to sell in their house, you gotta play by their rules. It’s that simple.

If it were really that simple, we'd all be leasing AT&T cell phones. The only reason Apple can sell iPhones and run an app store is because AT&T got broken up 40 years ago for similar issues.

Re: Epic says Apple will reinstate developer account

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Not trying to start a flame war, I'm asking this earnestly. Where does this command over hardware (USB-C mandate), software (sideloading/AppStore), and prices (recent 2bn decision) end?

Personally, I've like to get the old audio jack socket added back to iPhones and laptops.

Maybe that's just me though. ;)

Re: Epic says Apple will reinstate developer account

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Amazing how fast this decision was reversed. It's truly awesome to see regulators standing up to walled gardens. This will greatly benefit both developers and consumers.

According to the article it was because Epic met with Apple and gave better assurances that they'd play ball rather than deliberately break their contract like they did last time. Regulators don't seem to have had anything to do with it. --- So what changed? Apple tells 9to5Mac that it has held further discussions with Epic. The result is that Apple has received proper commitment that Epic will play by the rules as l…

Regulators immediately started calling for an investigation and we're going to look into Apple’s termination of Epic’s developer account as a matter of priority.

Re: Epic says Apple will reinstate developer account

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"for one" or "for once"?

I think they meant once. Besides digital lollipops what else is going so great in EU? jobs? economic growth? housing? immigration?

Quality of life, work-life balance, good schools, good transport, lots of consumer protections, human rights & rights for minorities, 70 years of peace.

Economic growth isn't great but could be a lot worse if I look at the rest of the world.

Energy transition for sure has some huge challenges but again, we're doing pretty great compared to other places in the world.

Housing is an issue, but where isn't housing an issue?

Re: Epic says Apple will reinstate developer account

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This is just so weird to watch. Apple is literally throwing a tantrum on a continent-wide stage. Like, it's one attempt at escalation after another, and they keep losing (either their legal fights, or their nerve) and having to reverse course. Like, there's no strategy at all here? Just keep swinging and hope you land a blow that breaks through the armor? This is how my 15 year old plays VR games.

I don't think there is a strategy, this is all theater so he has some pushback if investors file complaints or lawsuits during the next quarterly results meeting. They can't say that Tim Cook didn't do everything in his power to make them even *more* money. Since, ultimately, his duty as a CEO is to prioritize the financial wealth of shareholders. If he just complied with the EU then he'd be voted out by the board by…

> Since, ultimately, his duty as a CEO is to prioritize the financial wealth of shareholders.

I feel like the whole fiduciary responsibility bit is always the foundation of terrible arguments. As if every individual choice that earns a dollar is therefore forced.

Earning multiple billion dollar fines is not serving shareholders. Sabotaging the future is not serving shareholders. Destroying goodwill is not serving shareholders.

Apple's various tantrums and desperate clutching onto their market hasn't remotely been beneficial for the company, and I'd argue it is a big reason the company has started plateauing. Like how Valve went from being a game maker to being a purveyor of gambling crates and keys, Apple is desperately pimping for every bit of rent-seeking and service fees.

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