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This doesn't surprise me. I knew someone that intentionally graduated with a specific major, so they could get a job in that industry and send trade secrets/IP back to China. The purpose was to create a competing company. It didn't work out for them that well. They couldn't last more than 6 months at any one company and I think eventually gave up and went back home.
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Most F50 companies will not hire those without citizenship and will be reluctant to hire talent born in China to protect trade secrets. The number of Chinese students at the local BIG!) university by me is a fraction of what it was in 2019. Companies are well aware of the risks now.
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> You expect Google to scan the database of companies in every country continuously to see if employees are executives of them? Um, yes? That’s among the least invasive and cheapest due diligence they could do.
Perhaps just perhaps the task is a bit harder than what you make it sound like Instances of people sharing the same name are far more common in china than elsewhere. For example there are more than 30 thousand people called "Wang Wei". The fact is complicated by the fact that the writing systems are different and transliteration errors are commonplace.
Google could even automate this with an email, opting into which would be a requirement for any senior employee handling the kind of information the US government cares about.
"A person sharing your name has registered a company in China, as of 2024-03-07. To affirm that you are not related to this person, please click this link. If you were this person, please reply to this email for next steps."
Edit: obviously, criminals don't mark the "yes I'm a criminal box" on forms. That's not the purpose it's there to serve.
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exactly, this guy understands how business in China works.
How do you imagine this works, western government can’t manage potholes but CCP beurocrats can manage AI, Car production and solar panel production and beat our companies? Are they superhuman?
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> Should all uploads and content transmissions be locked for employees with foreign ties to an adversarial country? Profiling works. Profiling is abhorrent to most people in 1st world countries, but it works exceedingly well. If the hire is from an adversarial country, they should not only be locked but on a watch list. Our 3 letter organizations should be proactive toward information security. We're in the Informati…
It's a lot more nuanced than that. Racial profiling only works if it's impossible for an adversary to recruit a member who doesn't match the profile. $ says that won't happen. Information security meanwhile, doesn't need profiling because it applies to everyone.
Of course it doesn't work perfectly, but no security is ever perfect.
This doesn't surprise me. I knew someone that intentionally graduated with a specific major, so they could get a job in that industry and send trade secrets/IP back to China. The purpose was to create a competing company. It didn't work out for them that well. They couldn't last more than 6 months at any one company and I think eventually gave up and went back home.
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You expect Google to scan the database of companies in every country continuously to see if employees are executives of them? How would this handle different people who have the same name? Disclosure: I work at Google.
> You expect Google to scan the database of companies in every country continuously to see if employees are executives of them? Um, yes? That’s among the least invasive and cheapest due diligence they could do.
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Yah, so there is a problem here in that many of these "homeland nationalistic" folks who send stuff back to "their governments" are in many instances, citizens of the country they are betraying. Since these two[1][2] incidents, I wondered deeply for a while, what is going to happen here as it seems the CCP is getting more and more brazen. I don't believe it would be legal for "enhanced background checks" on someone i…
>I don't believe it would be legal for "enhanced background checks" on someone in the hiring process because they are Chinese American, It absolutely would be legal if AI was recategorized as ITAR. In 2022, dual citizenship was cracked down on in ITAR regulations and dual(or more) citizen individuals must now be deeply vetted for contact with ITAR Section 126.1 countries which include China.