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Re: Kagi and Wolfram

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Post by andai »

MostlyStable wrote: post #87
andai wrote: post #36

Did kagi recently (past 12 months) add the unlimited plan? Last time I checked even my human search usage was way beyond their limits (Google regularly accuses me of being a bot!), and my primary interest was in 100Xing that volume with autonomous agents. Now it says unlimited, but I'm not sure "you and a swarm of a thousand digital clones" counts as fair use...

>regularly accuses me of being a bot! >swarm of autonomous agents. So....Google is right?

I haven't launched the swarm yet. Google is reacting to (as I said), my "human" search usage.

(Also possibly Brave browser's anti-tracking, which their captcha system hates and actively punishes.)

Apparently the average person does 3-4 Googles per day.. I checked my search history and I'm somewhere in the 100-200 range.

Re: Kagi and Wolfram

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Post by andai »

golf_mike wrote: post #45
andai wrote: post #36

Did kagi recently (past 12 months) add the unlimited plan? Last time I checked even my human search usage was way beyond their limits (Google regularly accuses me of being a bot!), and my primary interest was in 100Xing that volume with autonomous agents. Now it says unlimited, but I'm not sure "you and a swarm of a thousand digital clones" counts as fair use...

yes https://kagi.com/settings?p=billing_plan

To rephrase my question, was the unlimited plan not available about a year ago? Otherwise I don't think I would have disqualified kagi at the time. I recall the volume being too low for my needs, even without hooking it up to any automated systems (which for me at least, was the whole point of looking into paid search engines).

Re: Kagi and Wolfram

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Post by aheckler »

swyx wrote: post #88

TIL that Wolfram Research has 1000 employees. what do they... do? what is Wolfram's revenue? i'm completely out of the loop. This is the size of Automattic - which makes Wordpress. is Wolfram on that scale? idk.

> This is the size of Automattic

Automattic has almost 2000 employees.[0] I believe that number even automatically updates as folks come and go, but I could be wrong.

[0] https://automattic.com/about/

Re: Kagi and Wolfram

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Post by throwup238 »

x0x0 wrote: post #104
flkiwi wrote: post #19

I’ve spent money on things because I had to, I’ve spent money because I wanted to. I have rarely spent money on something because the idea just sounded good and been so consistently pleased with what I received for my investment. It’s not free, but Kagi is a small investment for a vastly improved (and customizable) search experience.

But how will you live with yourself when every search for library documentation or a programming language doesn't flood the first page with expertsexchange, w3schools, geeksforgeeks, favtutor, freecodecamp, and a pile of other tissue-thin content covered with popups?

Sex changes aren’t just for experts anymore!

Re: Kagi and Wolfram

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Post by andai »

JumpCrisscross wrote: post #49
andai wrote: post #36

Did kagi recently (past 12 months) add the unlimited plan? Last time I checked even my human search usage was way beyond their limits (Google regularly accuses me of being a bot!), and my primary interest was in 100Xing that volume with autonomous agents. Now it says unlimited, but I'm not sure "you and a swarm of a thousand digital clones" counts as fair use...

> I'm not sure "you and a swarm of a thousand digital clones" counts as fair use It obviously does not. You’re a commercial client.

> You’re a commercial client

No, I'm broke and have no income. But about a year ago I wrote some 20 line Python programs that use GPT (feed it text from web searches) and was surprised to find they worked significantly better than Bing's AI search...

I used it at a small scale with Python's (unofficial?) DuckDuckGo API, but I was looking for a way to scale up (ideally for free or very cheap). At the time, Bing's API was the best option I found, and it was pretty expensive.

I think it would be really cool if I could have an autonomous agent doing research on my current interests in the background 24/7, but it seems my best option is a very low volume of (free) web searches to seed a small web scraper, plus possibly a custom-built search engine (see also https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38703943 )

Re: Kagi and Wolfram

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Post by throwup238 »

jxy wrote: post #76

> welcome Stephen Wolfram to Kagi’s board of advisors This is interesting. I guess we will soon read a longwinded post about it from the first person perspective.

Kagi-Wolfram derangement syndrome here we go!

"Kagi" goes first to get under his skin just a little bit.

Re: Kagi and Wolfram

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Post by JumpCrisscross »

1970-01-01 wrote: post #114
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you expect “iphone case $50..$60” to be interpreted as not in dollars?

Show in USD, CAD, EUR, GBP, BTC.. etc.

I’m just confused why that would be expected behaviour unprompted, and particularly after you specified “$.”

Re: Kagi and Wolfram

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Post by loehnsberg »

syntaxing wrote: post #4

This is pretty damn cool. It might finally push me over the edge to give the subscription a go.

I‘ve been using it for two years as my primary search engine, and they’ve been nailing it. Kagi‘s worth every cent. No ads, no need for DDG g-bang, because Kagi search results are above par, excellent support via email/feedback, „quick answer“ feature gives gpt reply, and now Wolfram.

Re: Kagi and Wolfram

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Post by loehnsberg »

djha-skin wrote: post #85

> ...We are even thinking of providing a consumeable API for users to add their own widgets to Kagi search results triggered on demand (and shareable with others via an open-source repository[1]). Neat! 1: https://help.kagi.com/kagi/support-and-community/open-source...

I‘d love to see an IMDB widget.
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