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Re: Private company landing on the moon today

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I'm suprised by the number of replies here that don't get why it's unsafe for girls and women in Texas (and some other US states). I'm also not American, but you had to be living under a rock in the past months and years if you didn't get wind of the overtunring of Roe vs. Wade and the reproductive rights policies in Texas.

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Re: Private company landing on the moon today

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There is a meaningful difference between national pride and 2 for 1 at Dominos.

True, for instance no wars have yet been fought over 2 for 1 at Dominos.

2 for 1 at Dominos has also, strangely enough, never protected anyone.

Odd that.

Re: Private company landing on the moon today

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But observations need powerful domestic telescopes. If you're NASA, you own and have access to them.

No, as an American, you own them. NASA just administrates them for you. If you're a space faring private company, you contract out the various parts of the mission. You didn't build a rocket, you hired SpaceX. You didn't build the relay network, you licensed access time. You don't build a space observation platform, you license time to use them.

This is a pretty silly pedantic point. Public property is owned and controlled by governments for the benefit of the public. That does not mean each individual member of the public has traditional ownership rights to said property.

Re: Private company landing on the moon today

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> the Odysseus lander will eject the EagleCam camera-equipped CubeSat, which will drop onto the lunar surface near the lander

So the first non-government device to land on moon will be viewed trying to land by a device also non-government (but part of the lander) that lands on the moon first? I guess that evens out.

Re: Private company landing on the moon today

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Ground infrastructure is important for space missions. Intuitive Machines is operating under a NASA contract for Commercial Lunar Payload Services (CLPS) [1]. As such, they can negotiate access to NASA resources such as DSN and NEN for this mission. Intuitive Machines has also built several ground stations of their own [2]. These allow communications with the spacecraft as well as the range/velocity measurements need…

Thanks for these great details. Is there a fee for using the NASA resources (I assume there is, I just don't know how this works)?

Yes, there is a fee. The largest antennas (i.e., the absolutely gigantic 70 meter dishes) can be $5k per hour. Further discussion on StackOverflow [1] and the NASA MOCS guide [2].

[1] https://space.stackexchange.com/questions/21005/what-makes-t...

[2] https://deepspace.jpl.nasa.gov/files/6_NASA_MOCS_2014_10_01_...

Re: Private company landing on the moon today

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post #118

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The walkie-talkie toys I had as a kid in the 90s had at least 10x the range of modern home wifi routers. Not to mention how far radio stations broadcast. I'm guessing that's the context they're working from.

That's because of different frequencies and power caps that are enforced by the FCC. If your WiFi broadcast with the same power, the frequency space would be unusable by your neighbors for their WiFi. The range of WiFi is very purposefully sabotaged to make it useful for more than just you.

And also because our kid-era walkie talkies were VHF (or at least mine were) which is a much lower frequency band than wifi. At a given power level, lower frequencies travel farther (i.e. around obstacles) but can't transfer as many bits as wifi.
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