If you are going to recommend other providers, at least mention what their funding is so they don't end up like Skiff.
Privacy focused platform Skiff is joining Notion, Skiff to be sunset
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Re: Privacy focused platform Skiff is joining Notion, Skiff to be sunset
#142If you're interested in an open source, (including the server) self hostable, E2EE and federated/p2p storage, sharing and app protocol (including calendar, docs etc) who doesn't have VC investors, check out Peergos: https://peergos.org Tech book - https://book.peergos.org Source - https://github.com/peergos/peergos Sign up to our server - https://peergos.net/?signup=true
Interesting, I really like your technical blogs https://peergos.org/blog .
Thank you. We need to blog more - there is a huge backlog of things I want to talk about. Happy to answer any questions you have here.
Re: Privacy focused platform Skiff is joining Notion, Skiff to be sunset
#143Mailbox.org as a mail provider has not been metioned here, so i will do it now. That's it - i will not point out the features here as you can look it up yourself. Just the relevancy for this topic: berlin based company with a CEO that is highly skilled, involved in protocol standartization and very much into privacy topics and free software. i am also pretty much sure they will stay arou d for years to come, as they…
I'm really pleased with Purelymail so far. It's very minimalistic, reliable (I can't remember if I've ever had any sort of downtime at all!), and dirt cheap: $10/yr if you're on simple pricing, and usually even less if you pay for usage (my usual monthly bill is around 50¢, give or take, so something like $6/yr). https://purelymail.com/
Purelymail appears to be entirely run by exactly one person [0]. That's not really an acceptable risk for something as critical as email. If he loses interest in the project, or gets busy with his day job or other life responsibilities, your email will be effectively shut down in an instant.
Re: Privacy focused platform Skiff is joining Notion, Skiff to be sunset
#144I wonder how Notion/Skiff screwed up so royally with this acquisition. Almost 100% of the comments in this thread are related to the shutdown of the email service. This is, of course, the primary value of Skiff. How could anyone in the management chain possibly have signed off on an acquisition of all assets except the email provider?
Re: Privacy focused platform Skiff is joining Notion, Skiff to be sunset
#145I’m still miffed that Dropbox killed Mailbox. I’m a big fan of Notion but these hires/acquu-hires are a deathknell indicator. It means they’ve hit that point where the ideas have stopped flowing but the money hasn’t, so they start using the money instead of their own creative juices. It’s a shame because there’s still so many places Notion could improve.
(I work at Notion)
The way I see it, we have more ideas than we have people to work on them, but we have plenty of money in the bank. So, we buy a small company close to one of our idea so we can work on it now, instead of in 2-3 years time. I’m bummed we aren’t keeping Skiff’s mail product running though.
Overall Notion has matured a bit more to a place we can make more investments in the future, especially on the engineering side. I’m finally working on a performance focused architecture project I’ve wanted to do since 2019 — that doesn’t feel like death knell to me.
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#146Earlier quoted context omitted.
Yes, we released it recently last year. We fully support SMTP/IMAP/POP3, and are testing and improving our CalDAV implementation (calendar).
Do you support CardDAV? So that I could also use forwardemail.net to sync my contacts between e.g.: my smartphone and my computer?
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#147Earlier quoted context omitted.
We treat the server as an adversary. So everything is chunked an encrypted so the server can't see file data, filenames, file sizes, whether something is a file or dir, who has access to a file, who your friend are etc. Everything is signed so servers can't tamper with your data either. We also use a p2p and self-authenticated protocol so it is easy to migrate servers whilst keeping your identity, friends and data.
Interesting, in selfhosted discussions, I usually hear about that as a negative (it comes up frequently in the seafile - nextcloud comparison). It makes sense, but I hadn’t heard the pro-part of the argument before.
I used to self host Nextcloud and securing it ended up being very complicated
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#148https://skiff.com/data-migration I’m really upset about this, I was about to go all in on Skiff after being burnt by ProtonMail. Glad I didn’t. Feel really bad for those who did.
I will be switching over to Tuta. Their new subscriptions let you setup unlimited aliases if you are using a custom domain. So, I'll be able to keep all my same email addresses and still have strong encryption.
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#149Ah stink. Time to move then. Can anyone recommend a privacy focused email provider that can run free or cheap custom domains?
For a custom domain, Tuta is offering unlimited aliases for 3 bucks a month. That's not too bad and there are a slew of other features.
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#150Earlier quoted context omitted.
Interesting, in selfhosted discussions, I usually hear about that as a negative (it comes up frequently in the seafile - nextcloud comparison). It makes sense, but I hadn’t heard the pro-part of the argument before.
I used to self host Nextcloud and securing it ended up being very complicated
I selfhost it, and I have no issues.