It’s already under import ban and I know somebody who got their order seized by customs. It’s a hacking tool and customs flips out about those even if an actual security professional is buying them.
Canadian government banning Flipper Zero to combat auto theft
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Re: Canadian government banning Flipper Zero to combat auto theft
#142It not banned yet: might be worth to send comments to Jean-Sebastien.Comeau@iga-aig.gc.ca the email address on that page. > Office of the Honourable Dominic LeBlanc Minister of Public Safety, Democratic Institutions and Intergovernmental Affairs
That's the press secretary.
A better contact is Dominic LeBlanc, and your local MP.
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#143This is typical. All this stuff about people knowing where their cars are and the police, CBSA etc not doing anything about it*, the complicity of all the port and shipping people, but the government pretends banning some electronics will change something. I don't know what people expected from a "summit" or whatever they did, there are lots of clear steps we could take, but instead we get this. *see https://www.cbc.…
Well you see, adding the name of a consumer device to a list of prohibited items is easy and costs nearly nothing. On the other hand, unfucking inter-jurisdiction cooperation and rooting out organized crime from the ports is hard. See also: - banning various types of (previously) legal firearms vs cracking down on illicit handguns being smuggled in over the border from the US - banning purchase of property by foreign…
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#144The Flipper Zero is a general-purpose tool and STEM educational device. By banning the device, a country would be setting back their workforce of engineers and scientists a bit. How can you use a Flipper Zero to steal a car? Flipper Zero can't crack hard encryption. Is the real problem that cars were made with security that they already knew was negligently weak at the time? If so, is a recall of those cars more appr…
This is great. I rewrote it in my own words and sent it to my local Canadian MP, as well as Dominic LeBlanc who is the Minister of Public Safety.
Here's my template:
I am a Canadian citizen in your riding (A1B 2C3) and multiple business owner in the technology sector.
As an expert in the field of electronics and information security, I am concerned about the ISED’s initiative to ban Flipper Zero and similar devices, announced at: https://www.canada.ca/en/public-safety-canada/news/2024/02/f...
The Flipper Zero is a general-purpose tool for engineering and information security research. By banning the device, we will be doing a disservice to our country’s practitioners in these fields, while doing little to thwart car thefts.
If possession of a device like Flipper Zero is the enabler for car theft, then it leads me to believe that such cars had negligently insecure encryption from the day they were manufactured, and a recall of such cars would be more appropriate.
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#145Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you think it's that bad I say (not in a snarky way) go but I'm not sure where. By your tone I suspect the EU is not your cup of tea. I think you're wrong I mean we have problems but so do all countries now healthcare is a worldwide issue. And just look south it's a mess politically and socially (sorry USA!). Even the EU is under strain among its members.
Not OP but did add my own take in a sibling comment; as much as I tend to enjoy my time in the states, I just don't like the vibe as much, and there's a subtle but noticable relief I get when I return home. Maybe it's the airport terminals that make me feel as though I'm appealing to get out of prison every time I have to layover there.
Some places I've lived in the US made me wish to return to Canada, others made me thankful I didn't. If you've never lived there long-term of course it won't feel like home. I know it's tempting to make excuses for the place you live, but I think you're downplaying the damage that Trudeau's government has done to the country. The US has its issues too, but greater state independence and a stronger constitution help.
Re: Canadian government banning Flipper Zero to combat auto theft
#146The Flipper Zero is a general-purpose tool and STEM educational device. By banning the device, a country would be setting back their workforce of engineers and scientists a bit. How can you use a Flipper Zero to steal a car? Flipper Zero can't crack hard encryption. Is the real problem that cars were made with security that they already knew was negligently weak at the time? If so, is a recall of those cars more appr…
It's a script kiddie tool that requires zero knowledge of radio theory and programming.
Requires != facilitates. Why be so dismissive?
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#147Looks like they want to show they are “doing something”
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#148I ordered a contraband baofeng handset from the US and it made it thru customs without inspection or seizure
Re: Canadian government banning Flipper Zero to combat auto theft
#149This is typical. All this stuff about people knowing where their cars are and the police, CBSA etc not doing anything about it*, the complicity of all the port and shipping people, but the government pretends banning some electronics will change something. I don't know what people expected from a "summit" or whatever they did, there are lots of clear steps we could take, but instead we get this. *see https://www.cbc.…
Easier to ban the Flipper than admit to the public that ports in Quebec are run by the mafia which is what makes this entire issue with auto theft possible.
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#150Earlier quoted context omitted.
> What would be okay is to ban the use of an F0 to steal a car. Ban carrying them. If it's truly an educational tool you don't need to carry it around with you. Same as (in the UK) carrying a set of lockpicks is grounds to be arrested for 'going equipped' unless you're a locksmith.
Forgive me if as an American I hold up the English people and their government as a model of how a free and democratic nation ought not to be.
Oi you got a loicence for that opinion?