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Drug abuse is rare and severely punished. You go to prison if you're Korean, you did drugs recently and got caught in Korea. It doesn't matter if you've smoked pot overseas, flew back to Korea, got tested and the drug test came out positive. They'll still throw you in prison.

When do they test you?

It's mostly illegal to purchase in the first place iirc.

Re: Pakistan cuts off phone and internet services on election day

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They could divide it into 5-10 different test, administered over the course of several years. Anything but what they are doing now, which sounds like it was custom designed to encourage drug abuse and suicide.

100% agree There's a simple statistical argument behind it: the variance drops as you increase the number of tests. Let's say your true ability is A and you have one measurement M1. The variance (or, let's put it in another way: the probability that your M1 is waaaay different from your A) goes down if you also get M2, M3, M4 and take an average. In other words: your measurements become more precise and the stress go…

One could say that grades are an even better metric! They measure all manner of academic topics over many years and across many different instructors.

Re: Pakistan cuts off phone and internet services on election day

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They could divide it into 5-10 different test, administered over the course of several years. Anything but what they are doing now, which sounds like it was custom designed to encourage drug abuse and suicide.

Drug abuse is rare and severely punished. You go to prison if you're Korean, you did drugs recently and got caught in Korea. It doesn't matter if you've smoked pot overseas, flew back to Korea, got tested and the drug test came out positive. They'll still throw you in prison.

I highly doubt the resourceful youth of Korea have not discovered several ways to find and abuse stimulants to help them study.

Just curious, what is the average prison sentence in Korea for a 16-year old found guilty of buying Adderall online?

Re: Pakistan cuts off phone and internet services on election day

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IN Pakistan army decides and is the real ruler. Elections are only a face to appear as a democratic sate. In fact Pakistan elite (including army higher ranks) just is there to milk the country and build estates outside (West/UAE/etc).

This dynamics is the underlying principle of every democracy. Only the sophistication of the civilian facade differs. If you want to see how fast things show their true colors stop paying "your" soldiers. When it happens due to breakdown of government-nation relationship coup or military pacification of civilians is imminent.

> ... every democracy ... If you want to see how fast things show their true colors stop paying "your" soldiers.

Laying off soldiers and officers have been quite common in democracies. It is not really a problem. I guess it is mainly a problem if there is social unrest to begin with and the layoffs are a spark and maybe not done in an orderly manor.

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2018 Algeria shut down internet during school exam season. https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jun/21/algeria-shuts-... "Algeria is not, however, the only country to take such radical steps during exam season: Syria, Iraq, Mauritania, Uzbekistan and several Indian states reportedly block access to the internet. Ethiopia shuts down social media."

It's still crazy but more reasonable to shut it down for exams than elections

I wonder if exam season is just a convenient excuse to test the system in case it needs to be deployed for civic unrest.

Re: Pakistan cuts off phone and internet services on election day

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> Pakistan has temporarily suspended mobile phone network And not the fixed one?

The intent isn't to block voice calls, but (probably) spreading of misinformation via social networks and group chat apps. Where the definition of "misinformation" is up to the government.

> The intent isn't to block voice calls

Then I wonder why they are blocking voice calls.

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Globally-unique addresses are also easier to censor

If devices talk directly to one another there's very little a central authority could do to censor communication

There's still plenty a central authority could do, for example (1) banning mesh equipment altogether or (2) requiring that nodes in the mesh implement the government blacklist (and they could run nodes in the mesh to audit compliance). Pretty sure you need something more than mesh networking to make this work--you need an anonymous routing protocol so nodes in the middle don't know the address of the origin or destination nodes.

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IN Pakistan army decides and is the real ruler. Elections are only a face to appear as a democratic sate. In fact Pakistan elite (including army higher ranks) just is there to milk the country and build estates outside (West/UAE/etc).

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If the U.S. was the real ruler in Pakistan, I think Pakistan would not have supported the Taliban in Afghanistan the entire time U.S. troops were in Afghanistan. And they would not have been sheltering Osama bin Laden in Abbotabad, less than 1 mile from the Pakistan Military Academy.

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It might be true that devices could connect across the US-Canadian border, but most borders are dead spots. I suspect that, when territory was being scammed, stolen, claimed, fought over, whatever... borders tend to develop in those places where there isn't a big population. And those borders have tended to remain empty. There will be exceptions, but not enough to matter. Short of science fiction devices, I dunno wor…

True, most connections would be within individual cities, so you would definitely need it to hook servers and satellites into the mesh so you can cross dead zones. But that would already be a huge win for humanity.

Presumably the people who control the data links between population centers could just cut off the Internet, no? Doesn't that largely defeat the anti-censorship advantages of something like this?

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They could divide it into 5-10 different test, administered over the course of several years. Anything but what they are doing now, which sounds like it was custom designed to encourage drug abuse and suicide.

Happiness index for Korea is 6 Happiness index for US is 6.9 Suicide rate in Korea is 21.2 per 100k Suicide rate in US is 14.5 per 100k Drug death rate in Korea is 0.16 per 100k Drug death rate in US is 18.83 per 100k And I only did the US and Korea because I only know the US. My conclusion is South Koreans feel about the same as Americans but do way less drugs.

Having the same suicide rate as the US is not indicative of a healthy culture, especially in a country without easy access to guns.
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