Bummer for me: Moto G5 plus isn't supported. I'm rather forced to abandon my phone because my employer (thanks to MS) is dropping support for BYOD.
It might be unofficially supported. Most devices are.
LineageOS is currently installed on 1.5M Android devices
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Re: LineageOS is currently installed on 1.5M Android devices
#142Lineage is as much standard android experience as you can get after market without any gaming/styling mods. If google was series about AOSP and sustainability they should embrace lineage and at least give a non-rooted lineage with a relocked bootloader on pixel phones a safety-net pass. Lineage has been very careful to not piss off google by not including microg or alternative webview signatures or means to circumven…
> Lineage has been very careful to not piss off google by not including microg or alternative webview signatures or means to circumvent device attestation. This love is not returned. I wish they weren't so pedantic about that. At the moment if you even mention microg in the lineage channel you get insta-banned. As you say their hard stance is not doing them any good with Google anyway, they're ignored either way. And…
Is anyone here daily-driving microg and can share their experiences? https://github.com/microg/GmsCore/wiki/Implementation-Status does not exactly inspire confidence.
Re: LineageOS is currently installed on 1.5M Android devices
#143I install Lineage on the phones of the elderly at local care homes and any people who are interested in prolonging the life of their old phones. Poor people can't afford a new phone every two years. When in your 80's you dont need or want the constant nagging of apps pestering you when all you want to do is text and call your family and friends. I use abd to delete/disable every unnecessary useless app and leave them…
>When in your 80's you dont need or want the constant nagging of apps pestering you when all you want to do is text and call your family and friends. I'm nowhere near 80 or retirement and I have the same sentiment. Add datamining concerns to the list. The modern smart phone can stay off my lawn. I get enough Internet here at my desk.
When I first got my first cell phone (a Samsung Galaxy Note 10+), I found the idea of multiple pages of apps off-putting, so deleted everything which didn't seem necessary, and what couldn't be deleted moved into the various extant folders.
I've kept with this since, and hope to never need another phone (when this one dies, I'll just get a small camera, or a tablet with a rear camera).
Re: LineageOS is currently installed on 1.5M Android devices
#144I used to use LineageOS from 2018-2022, and even maintained a public spreadsheet of the different supported devices and their info to help people find their own devices. I eventually moved to iOS last year for a variety of reasons, though a part of me misses using Lineage. I wrote about why I moved here[1].
Re: LineageOS is currently installed on 1.5M Android devices
#145Earlier quoted context omitted.
Take something as simple and necessary like Messenger or WhatsApp. Try to use it with no previous knowledge, texting, calling, turning on camera during call. All the text the UI displays, how it is worded. It's ridiculously unintuitive, not inclusive, a real barrier. There should be law to mandate the UI of any app beyond a userbase of 100M. If you say that would severely restrict apps becoming that big, yeah that wo…
> There should be law to mandate the UI of any app beyond a userbase of 100M. Gross. No thanks. If you don't like the UI of an app, just use something else for cryin' out loud.
What is this plethora of options people have for banking, paying rent, getting documents from their doctor... And this isn't just an issue with phone apps either.
When I visit my bank account online I'm met with full page advertisements for other services from the bank and I have to hunt around to find the tiny gray 'No thanks' text before I can even get to my accounts. And from there, I'm met with constantly changing UI patterns and abstract hieroglyphic icons instead of plain text like it should be.
Re: LineageOS is currently installed on 1.5M Android devices
#146My current phone is the first one I've owned to ever be supported by LineageOS. I've always been disapointed I couldn't use it to breathe life back into my old phones.
I don't think I'll make the switch so long as it's still supported by the manufacturer, but maybe after they drop support I'll finally be able to give it a shot.
Re: LineageOS is currently installed on 1.5M Android devices
#147Earlier quoted context omitted.
Take something as simple and necessary like Messenger or WhatsApp. Try to use it with no previous knowledge, texting, calling, turning on camera during call. All the text the UI displays, how it is worded. It's ridiculously unintuitive, not inclusive, a real barrier. There should be law to mandate the UI of any app beyond a userbase of 100M. If you say that would severely restrict apps becoming that big, yeah that wo…
> There should be law to mandate the UI of any app beyond a userbase of 100M. Gross. No thanks. If you don't like the UI of an app, just use something else for cryin' out loud.
Care to explain further why there should be zero regulations on the UX of monopoly applications used by ~15%+ of world population? Good luck on trying to avoid the 3 top messaging applications in today's world. How is this different from regulating content moderation?
It's like telling a wheelchair user to just use another station or form of transport. If you have global reach, you have global responsibilites. And the end goal wouldn't even be regulated apps - it should simply be too complex to create apps with such a reach. Forcing open protocols instead of proprietary gardens. This is what the messaging interoperability of EU's DMA act is also supporting.
Re: LineageOS is currently installed on 1.5M Android devices
#148Happy user of LineageOS. Unfortunately I need a few apps that look for Play Store like Whatsapp, so I'm using LineageOS+ MicroG. Have been using an old Moto G7 for years and it has still been faster than most Samsung phones. Thinking of upgrading but I'm gonna wait until the phone physically breaks down which might still be a few years away. If you plan on installing Lineage, I strongly recommend buying Motorola phon…
Are you sure WA needs the play store? I use Android but with most apps disabled - no browser, no Play store, no Google services, all the Samsung crap disabled, and so on. When I need to install an app, I enable the Play store, install it, then disable the store again (using ADB). I also do a monthly update of all the apps. WA works fine. Messenger works fine, Spotify etc., they all work. The only app I've found so fa…
Icm not too certain on the details, but Google uses a framework separate from the play store itself to provide certain APIs. It's this part that microg replaces.
Re: LineageOS is currently installed on 1.5M Android devices
#149Lineage is as much standard android experience as you can get after market without any gaming/styling mods. If google was series about AOSP and sustainability they should embrace lineage and at least give a non-rooted lineage with a relocked bootloader on pixel phones a safety-net pass. Lineage has been very careful to not piss off google by not including microg or alternative webview signatures or means to circumven…
I never understood the banking app thing. I can use my banks website to manage my finances, using my built-from-source Gentoo Linux computer. Why must a phone then be totally locked down?
Because it's too late to lock down computers, but that's the trend with every newer platform such as phones, tablets, TVs, cars, etc.
Re: LineageOS is currently installed on 1.5M Android devices
#150Earlier quoted context omitted.
No. BankID in Sweden. Other countries have similar. You need it for everything.
MitID in Denmark, and many across Europe for government and/or banking. I will install LineageOS once I need apps that my old phone no longer supports. I ordered the MitID backup key generator in case their app doesn't work, but I'd prefer not to need to carry it.
You inspired me to be slightly less lazy. In case anyone finds this, it seems like you can get BankID to work[1], at least according to comments from three years ago. Who knows if that still works or is sustainable though.
1. https://www.reddit.com/r/sweden/comments/ocd6v0/bankid_med_l...