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Working in the Vision Pro [video]
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Re: Working in the Vision Pro [video]
#142Well, will it one day support Steam and PC or is this just another closed expensive piece of hardware we'll need to wait for the non-Apple walled garden equivalent?
Not as seamless as one might like. I stream games from my PC using moonlight. So far it's worked well.
Re: Working in the Vision Pro [video]
#143Earlier quoted context omitted.
I am very near-sighted... it feels good. :) [update: I remeasured in a more relaxed posture sitting back and it's closer to 20" in that scenario]
I was going to comment that all the ergonomics things I've read suggest arm-length (touch with tip of finger) as the optimal monitor distance, but if you're nearsighted enough that doing so would require glasses, I can completely understand wanting to have the screen much closer. That makes a lot more sense.
Even that feels way too close to me. Maybe it's because I've adapted to 3 screens?
Re: Working in the Vision Pro [video]
#144Turning your head ~90 degrees to the left just to be able to see Slack(or any other windows) is for me an productivity nerf, not a boost. What's wrong with Alt/Option - Tab instead? In my life I experimented with 3 monitors, 2 monitors, one monitor, ultra widescreens, square aspect ratio displays, and a mix of several of those, etc. and I find the best productivity setup is when I have everything centered in my narro…
> Anyway, back on topic, this video feels like justifying the purchase with flashy multi window gimmicks instead of showing actual ergonomic improvements. The proof will be in the pudding. Will the author stick to that sprawling neck twisting setup long term, or will he switch back to a more conventional setup once the novelty of his new toy wears off and his video got enough views?
I feel like this is the 2024 equivalent of Compiz[0] first showing up some 20 years ago.
So many people were blinging out their desktops with these wild effects. Windows burn away when you close them! When you change desktops, there's some huge rotating cube!
But the novelty of this stuff just wears off. For a couple of months you can impress people with the "gee whiz" factor, but at the end of the day it doesn't do anything to actually make your work easier.
If I want something for "real work," low latency is a killer feature. Having to rummage through some virtual junk drawer to do the equivalent of alt-tab or meta-scrollwheel is always going to be weirdly indirect and slower for me.
There do exist practical, non-gaming use cases for VR/AR goggles (e.g. simulators and training software), but these are niche. I certainly don't buy the idea that "desktop computing" writ large is somehow going to be enhanced by this experience.
Re: Working in the Vision Pro [video]
#145I've been wearing AVP extensively these past few days, experimenting with using it for all kinds of things. As of now, I don't find it more efficient or seamless at doing much of anything. 1. There is no window management whatsoever. It would be great if I could stick apps to each other, or tile them in a frame, but I can't do that. I also can't stack windows—if I put one window behind another, the only way to access…
> I have a 32:9 curved monitor, and I can easily look at the "side" apps by tilting my head just a few degrees, with my eyes doing the rest of the work.
I have one of these at work, and I really, really hate it precisely because I can't keep the whole thing in my field of view at once. I can't even imagine trying to work if that effect is even worse.
Re: Working in the Vision Pro [video]
#146Earlier quoted context omitted.
Hah I have a 43” 4k at home with a tiling window manager called yabai. It’s nice because it also works for my Xbox or watching movies. But at work I have a triple monitor setup and to me that’s the definitive holy grail for a workspace.
Do you not find them too wide? I found that I just ended up moving things to the center screen and ignoring things at the sides
Center screen is the focus screen for sure. I cmd+tab between my code editor, terminal, and browser there.
Laptop screen on the left is for Slack and music player.
Right screen is in portrait mode and it’s for docs or design comps.
I have had issues with neck pain and stiffness and I find that having a wider FOV for my workspace balanced between left and right sides actually helps a lot…so that’s a huge part of why I like the triple monitor setup.
Re: Working in the Vision Pro [video]
#147I expected a cable dongle and external battery to be dangling off this into his pocket, does AVP no longer require that to be connected for use?
It's there in the mirror shot. Just not as prominent as people expect maybe.
Re: Working in the Vision Pro [video]
#148I've been wearing AVP extensively these past few days, experimenting with using it for all kinds of things. As of now, I don't find it more efficient or seamless at doing much of anything. 1. There is no window management whatsoever. It would be great if I could stick apps to each other, or tile them in a frame, but I can't do that. I also can't stack windows—if I put one window behind another, the only way to access…
> There is no window management whatsoever. FYI, Immersed is planning on releasing their app for visionOS. According to their employees on Discord, they're expecting that to happen around the end of February. Immersed is by far the best "virtual desktop" app I've ever used, so I expect it will solve most or all of the issues with Apple's implementation at launch. I'm guessing Apple will catch up eventually, but for n…
Isn't Immersed actually going into hardware and also trying to launch their own VR headset now?
Re: Working in the Vision Pro [video]
#149This is starting to me remind of when everyone was talking about replacing their Desktop/Laptop with an iPad and a Bluetooth keyboard for their work machine. I don't know anyone who was able to do so successfully.
I will say that I have not found any digital writing experience as good as on an iPad (and yes, I had a remarkable too).
The only things I use are a Linux laptop and an iPad which has completely replaced any physical paper usage for a few years already now.
Re: Working in the Vision Pro [video]
#150How long I wonder before Apple is able to link multiple Vision Pros together so that people in the same physical space can share the same augmented reality? Imagine if when he says hello to his partner, she's also wearing a Vision Pro and is able to walk around their house seeing the same reality. That would make the VP much less isolating which is one of the main "I'd never use this" reasons I have against it. I cou…
This is a good point.
I'm also looking forward the discussions when someone wants to move to the Meta reality when the rest of the family is in the Apple reality, and all the blue postits vs green postits arguments within shared group spaces.