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Re: Midlibrary: Library of 4000 Midjourney artistic styles

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Post by dleink » Mon, Jan 15, 2024, 11:27 PM UTC

The_Colonel wrote: post #130

hmcq6 wrote: post #112

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What are your thoughts on Fountain by Duchamp? When you read a book do you jump to the final chapter, read it, and then shut the book? Because it sounds like that's how you view art.

> What are your thoughts on Fountain by Duchamp? I don't think your comment really fits this thread, which is about why artists are creating art. But if anything, it strengthens the point. The art in the Fountain is not reproducible by generative AI, its existence therefore makes no difference.

"The art in the Fountain" is an interesting construction to describe the piece.

Re: Midlibrary: Library of 4000 Midjourney artistic styles

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Post by omnimus » Thu, Jan 18, 2024, 11:57 AM UTC

The_Colonel wrote: post #133

omnimus wrote: post #118

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Exactly and LLMs dont have emotions, audiovisual experience, human experience or any experience at all. For humans its impossible to create same art as someone elses. For LLMs its impossible to create anything else than copy of art thats in its database. Even if you model yourself on someones work and try to replicate it the results will be different. Its not that artists want to always create work different from eac…

> Exactly and LLMs dont have emotions, audiovisual experience, human experience or any experience at all. > For LLMs its impossible to create anything else than copy of art thats in its database. You forget that LLMs don't generate images out of its own volition. You need to prompt them. That's the injection of emotions, human experience, into the LLM. LLM provides technical means to create an image, the prompt autho…

Promp is injection of experience how? You pick from artist you like https://midlibrary.io/styles and try to describe what you want on the picture. Are you aware that most artists already work this way - you hire them with an assingment. No client would claim they are authors or that they injected emotion into the work.

Execution is the creative and hard part not thinking out the content of the artwork. Most artworks content is super basic like face of a person. Midjourney will make even the basic prompts look awesome.

I am sorry but you wont experience what artists do by prompting LLMs. We just stole, copied their work and possibly destroyed their lives. Shame.

Re: Midlibrary: Library of 4000 Midjourney artistic styles

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Post by omnimus » Thu, Jan 18, 2024, 12:08 PM UTC

The_Colonel wrote: post #134

gumballindie wrote: post #123

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I am surprised by the cognitive dissonance these people exhibit. On one hand they confidently claim that humans are stochastic parrots, on the other hand they claim they dont know how humans learn and think. They claim ai is intelligent but dont know how to define intelligence. Right not with a high degree of confidence we can state that they are taking what’s not theirs, apply software to it, and resell it. Everythi…

> On one hand they confidently claim that humans are stochastic parrots, on the other hand they claim they dont know how humans learn and think. They claim ai is intelligent but dont know how to define intelligence. I am surprised at the prevalence of building armies of strawmen here.

Yes if everything you don’t like is in your eyes strawmen… there will be armies.

Better to call them out or not engage in discussion.

Swiping everything under strawman without explanation is not productive to the discussion.