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Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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Has anyone tried to dist-upgrade? Does it work well? Around the time I was a Ubuntu user (around Hardy 8.04), dist-upgrade would usually break your box and was discouraged by Canonical themselves. If I recall correctly.

dist-upgrade won't upgrade you to the next release, just updates your current release. You want do-release-upgrade. And I've never had a problem with dist-upgrade. http://ubuntulinuxtipstricks.blogspot.com/2010/02/dist-upgra...

True, mea culpa. I meant to talk about do-release-upgrade. It's been so long I'm a little confused with the terminology :)

Seamless release upgrade is crucial if you want to have a high frequency (6 month) release cycle. Glad to see they made progress with this.

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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You can easily reach to this point http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads Find the torrent links here

Is there something torrent-comparable for "apt-get upgrade"?

They should work on apt-diffs first which Redhat already does. The torrent idea may not be practical because your machine would have to be running the torrentable-apt-get to act as a peer. I doubt many people would want to leave that running and the short 10 second connections would not be enough to sustain the swarm.

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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Desktop release notes are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PrecisePangolin/ReleaseNotes/UbuntuD...

> Hibernate (suspend to disk) has been disabled by default, as it was found to be unreliable, very slow and confusing to have two suspend modes. See bug 812394 for details. If you want to re-enable it, please follow this recipe. As someone who runs Ubuntu on a laptop with a dead battery, that's somewhat unfortunate. > The mail client Evolution may delete folders and their contents as they are renamed or moved around…

Evolution is no longer the default mail client. It's now Thunderbird (and I think it has been since at least 11.10).

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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My old Lenovo r51 is still on hardy heron 8.04. I used to read the release notes for Ubuntu to see if I could upgrade hassle free. There was a new Linux intel video driver which was a step back for a while: poor video play back and no compiz. Maybe it is time to get that ssd and upgrade os!

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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Finally with Ubuntu 12.04 we have a smooth Unity experience. I've used the 12.04 since beta and it just works.

Yup, this thread is interesting. An Ubuntu release, and I haven't read many complaints about Unity thus far down the page. They lost me to Mint in their last couple of releases.

It's possible that you've just explained it: The people for who it became such a problem have already migrated away.

I don't have any numbers for that, but even if it's a small shift, then it could be that most people weren't too fussed anyway.

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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Gnome did no such thing. Unity is developed entirely by Canonical, they own full copyright on it and they employ all the developers for it. They can add any options they want, and they can omit any options they want. Gnome doesn't even factor into this.

Is Unity proprietary software? If it was open source I'm surprised it has not been forked by now.

Disclaimer: My knowledge may be out of date.

People have tried to package Unity for other distributions, but those efforts have failed. One of the main problems was the patches that Canonical applies to GNOME libraries (to make Unity work) and to applications (to make them integrate with Unity). If someone wanted to fork Unity they'd have to find a way to handle this to get it fully working on any distribution besides Ubuntu.

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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i'm thinking of triple-booting my 2009 MBP with Ubuntu (already Bootcamped with Win7). anyone has experience with Ubuntu on MBPs? any problem with hardware? i need a lightweight-but-nice-looking OS for day-to-day Java development (i use IntelliJ), Lion is taxing too much.

Triple booting on Santa Rosa 2007 MBP. Upgraded to Lion from Snow Leopard and had many problems, lack of recovery partition, Spotlight failure etc. Need to reformat and reinstall all to get spotlight working again.

Ubuntu is now my main OS.

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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post #133

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Downvoted. Twilight frost is an awesome background though. You should add more info like "Hey, a little OT, but here's how the process works. Etc" to avoid down votes for lack of contribution.

If replying to a comment with "Upvoted" is unproductive, what's more productive about saying "Downvoted"?

I don't always down vote, but when I do I prefer to leave a comment.

I've probably down voted someone less than 20 times on HN, but when I do I like to leave a comment as to why. Its been the case where I've been down voted and wondered why.

His comment isn't a troll comment and looking at his past comments he seems to be reasonable, intelligent, and otherwise a productive member of HN. I wanted him to know why I downvoted him, and he can consider changing the post to offer more insight in which case he would attract more upvotes and would generally make HN a better place.

What makes my comment more productive is that I articulated why I down voted which is that it lacked any insight into the process and didn't contribute to the conversation.

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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This isn't necessarily directed at you (I make the same complaint to System76), but I really wish I could go on Amazon and buy a Linux laptop. I like the security of Amazon payments, the customer service, and I am a Prime subscriber so I like the free two-day shipping.

I totally understand. It's frickin' 2012 and I can't stand the fact that we can't do that. We want to sell via as many channels as possible, including Amazon. This is a tiny first step towards making a new computer company. Just need some love from hackers. Btw, we will offer free shipping :-)

You could try signing up as an Amazon merchant/seller.

Re: Ubuntu Releases 12.04 LTS Precise Pangolin

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You can easily reach to this point http://www.ubuntu.com/download/desktop/alternative-downloads Find the torrent links here

Is there something torrent-comparable for "apt-get upgrade"?

A quick search find an number of efforts.

http://debtorrent.alioth.debian.org/

http://www.camrdale.org/apt-p2p/

http://sianka.free.fr/

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