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Tuna species popular in sashimi and poke bowls in sharp decline

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Re: Tuna species popular in sashimi and poke bowls in sharp decline

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> If they stopped over-fishing, that would just attract Chinese fishermen who would fill the gaps. Maybe that's true, but isn't this the exact same argument used by Americans: "Why should I stop driving my SUV, when China will burn that gas anyway?"

False Equivalence When the gas is gone those SUVs will simply stop working. When the fish are gone large populations of people will not have sufficient food to eat.

When enough CO2 is in the air large populations of people will not have sufficient food to eat either.

Re: Tuna species popular in sashimi and poke bowls in sharp decline

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As someone who eats almost exclusively vegan I think it would be great as the whole world faces these issues, we see lots of switches to eating tofu or plant based foods. Way cheaper. Can’t get so fat and unhealthy. And far healthier since most vegans and vegetarians live long and healthy lives compared to other groups. Poke tastes great with tofu btw. We shouldn’t destroy the oceans. Anyway I’m bracing for the inevi…

> Can’t get so fat and unhealthy. Nah you can eat just as bad vegan food. Most vegan burgers are just fat patties much worse than those made of lean beef. As with any type of food it depends on the choices you make within the class and the amount of it. I think the reason vegans and vegetarians are healthier is mainly because they are more conscious of what they're eating in the first place. And depending on where yo…

There was a recent twin study (and Netflix show) done that makes for compelling evidence that a healthy vegan diet leads to better cardiovascular health than a healthy omnivorous diet:

https://med.stanford.edu/news/all-news/2023/11/twin-diet-veg...

https://www.netflix.com/tudum/articles/you-are-what-you-eat-...

That being said, I think that an unhealthy vegan diet can be worse than an unhealthy omnivorous diet, because you really do have to be careful to eat a variety of foods and supplement in order to get everything that your body needs. This is especially true for children.

I follow a vegan Youtuber who regularly points out how unhealthy the advice that other vegan influencers give can be. Here's her video on beginner tips for becoming vegan:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R906YsrBWjw

Re: Tuna species popular in sashimi and poke bowls in sharp decline

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Where I live (Finland) salmon is most likely the most commonly used sushi/sashini fish. It tastes absolutely great, IMHO better than tuna. Hopefully other countries can also start using more commonly available fishes for sushi/sashimi and don't just stick to tuna because of historical reasons.

Japan kind of considers Salmon a junk fish, though I agree with you.

https://www.npr.org/2015/09/18/441530790/how-the-desperate-n...

Re: Tuna species popular in sashimi and poke bowls in sharp decline

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've always heard predatory species like tuna cannot be farmed, but my knowledge may be outdated

Tuna can’t pump water over their gills. They can never stop swimming

Seems like an opportunity for CRISPR to make tunas that are farmable.

Re: Tuna species popular in sashimi and poke bowls in sharp decline

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Passenger_pigeon Passenger pigeons were hunted by Native Americans, but hunting intensified after the arrival of Europeans, particularly in the 19th century. Pigeon meat was commercialized as cheap food, resulting in hunting on a massive scale for many decades. There were several other factors contributing to the decline and subsequent extinction of the species, including shrinking of th…

1491 (or is it the sequel, 1493? I could see this topic ending up in either) makes the case that there's nowhere near as much evidence of Native Americans eating passenger pigeons as one might expect given the vast populations (and incredible ease of hunting) reported in later decades. Instead, the vast numbers may have been a sign of a badly screwed-up ecosystem, with huge swaths of native-managed agriculture and land suddenly going unmanaged, freeing up tons of cheap calories of exactly the kind the birds could use, leading to a gigantic boom in species perfectly-situated to take advantage of it, which would include the Passenger. All this, on account of the continent experiencing an apocalyptic drop in population after European disease arrived (and for other reasons, of course, but the diseases did a great deal of it).

That's not why it went extinct, of course, but does put in perspective what may have been a more "natural" population level for the bird, previously—the shocking decline may have been from an aberrant many-times-larger-than-normal population, not from the range in which the population had tended to stay before extensive contact with Europe. It may also explain why it was possible for it to go extinct so seemingly-easily—they weren't truly thriving as much as one might suppose from the numbers, and in fact were quite vulnerable, especially if people got accustomed to eating lots of them and their population was already destined to rubber-band back to something under its ordinary level.

Re: Tuna species popular in sashimi and poke bowls in sharp decline

#150

Sea Shepherd puts it well: How to save the ocean: 1) Don't eat marine animals 2) Be a voice for marine animals 3) Repeat steps 1 and 2

Eating marine animals can be beneficial for the oceans. Eating sea urchins can help save the kelp forests off of California, eating Lion fish can help save the reef fish in the Caribbean.
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