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How is this done? I couldn't find an explanation on a quick web search, nor could I find controls on my phone.
https://support.google.com/android/answer/9079661?hl=en#zipp...
Sadly, my version of Android seems to lack these finer-grained controls. I got an OS update a couple of months ago, though. Perhaps these are newer than that?
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The issue here is that the abuse of push notifications makes push notifications borderline worthless. That's why I don't allow them at all on my machines. The value they provide is swamped out by the abuse of them.
Yeah but it's on an app-by-app basis. Just disable push on the noisy/spammy ones and keep it on for well-behaved apps.
Marketer here. I’ll add how my company does it (10m+ list size) 1) we limit promotional notifications to one per user per day. All campaigns that target a given user are ranked based on expected monetization or engagement. This involves a large batch scoring job that runs overnight 2) we also limit promotional messages to one every x days, where x is personalized to the user. The more you open/click, the more you get…
> The more you open/click, the more you get and vice versa
User here: You can fuck off and this type of horrid behavior is getting your app/service/whatever spam bullshit it probably is permanently blacklisted off of all of my devices and in my network.
The only people not blocking your notifications are the people who don't realize they can do that after the initial nag you get from your OS about notifications on/off.
I might be in the minority group. But any app that sends me a push notification that I haven't specifically opted in for is going to have all notification privilege removed right away. A lot of the time it's actually a reminder for me to uninstall the app.
The only people who put up with these spammy bullshit notifications are people who aren't aware you can disable them in the first place. I wish the app stores would do something about this, like give us a spam report system a la email that lets you mark these parasitic marketers as the spam they are.
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Cynicism. It amuses me to think that some people probably believed that email would never go anywhere as a technology because spam.
Email was solidly established on the internet before email spam existed. The emergence and frowth of spam has greatly reduced how much people use email, though. It appears that spam is well on its way to effectively killing it. Marketers do seem to eventually kill anything they touch.
No shit. The postal system was solidly established before postal spam existed too.
Email spam's existence was anticipated though.
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Because some apps unfortunately are a necessity and we can't vote by removing them from our devices, but that doesn't mean we also decide to accept getting promotional notifications every hour on the hour from them because they take advantage of the fact that they're a necessity on our devices. And why must Apple or Google do something? Well because I can't make the iPhone or Android so I cannot change the underlinin…
They are, that's why Android enforces notification channels. I don't know about iOS though as I don't use it.
A way to tell the manufacturer that an app is abusing their customers with notifications and allow them to take that ability away and enforce channels being properly used is a net good for everyone (except those who abuse it)
Something I wish Apple and Google would support is notifications that are only delivered if you’ve opened the app during the last 2 hours. Taxi and food delivery services for example have a reasonable usecase for push notifications, but only around the time when I’ve opened the apps. I think adding such dials to the operating system could help align the user interest of not being spammed with the engagement metrics u…
I wish I could approve specific template strings for notifications. I want things like "%s replied to your comment". I don't want things like, "%s is %d% off this week!".
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Yeah but it's on an app-by-app basis. Just disable push on the noisy/spammy ones and keep it on for well-behaved apps.
It's easier to just disable them all by default, really, then I don't have to bother with micromanaging on an app-by-app basis. This is particularly true given that the majority of push notifications are spam.
Two years ago I learned from some Twitter post a new habit: every time you install an app on your phone, you must do one more step: block its notifications. You don't need any notifications from apps as long as this is not an instant messaging app. (You can make additional exception for your banking app, but that's it for 90% of users) My phone is now so silent.
Instant messaging apps don't need notifications either. It upsets some people at first, but it is for the most part perfectly fine to just check and respond messages in your own preferred frequency.
But some IM I treat as a really instant communication channel with my family: I don't want to miss any message from my kids or "I am at grocery, do you need something?" from my wife