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Re: Catalyst – Tailwind CSS Application UI Kit

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Post by boundlessdreamz »

Kiro wrote: post #133
boundlessdreamz wrote: post #52

Haven't checked out Catalyst but I have used TailwindUI. The components are really good but if you are not using a JS framework, it's a lot of work to integrate. The regular JS version of TailwindUI uses Alpine which doesn't have a CSP compatible version so you will have to write the Javascript from scratch. Partially due to these and frustrated by lack of component libraries in Rails, I built and recently released a…

> which doesn't have a CSP compatible version What do you mean?

This comment has the details.

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34366454

Re: Catalyst – Tailwind CSS Application UI Kit

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Post by martypitt »

tipiirai wrote: post #46

This is an unbelievably unfinished UI library. Especially with a price tag. A limited set of components with very little attention to detail. For example, the buttons lack the active state completely. Why would I pay €250 for something I can find easily for free?

Looks like it's bundled with everything else in their templates collection. I purchased all access a while ago, and have found it incredibly helpful.

It's definitely worth the one-off price tag, and the fact they include future updates (like Catalyst) is incredible.

Re: Catalyst – Tailwind CSS Application UI Kit

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Post by norman784 »

charlie0 wrote: post #104
boundlessdreamz wrote: post #52

Haven't checked out Catalyst but I have used TailwindUI. The components are really good but if you are not using a JS framework, it's a lot of work to integrate. The regular JS version of TailwindUI uses Alpine which doesn't have a CSP compatible version so you will have to write the Javascript from scratch. Partially due to these and frustrated by lack of component libraries in Rails, I built and recently released a…

Stimulus is used to sprinkle JS functionality, but why use it when Vue JS and Svelte are available? Those two are very powerful and also lightweight/minimal.

For most apps/sites something like Stimulus, htmlx, etc are good enough, also all JS frameworks comes with complexity, now you need a bundler, eslint, prettier, postcss, etc. I can appreciate the simplicity of relying purely on Rails ecosystem or at least very minimum JS that does not require a bundler.

Re: Catalyst – Tailwind CSS Application UI Kit

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Post by jwr »

I would gladly pay this price as a monthly subscription, if only I could get a maintained CSS library that lets me build applications on a level similar to Semantic UI, with the ability to customize or theme components.

I don't want JavaScript, I don't want a "framework", I don't want an npm-installable-monster, I want something that produces CSS that I can use for business. Semantic UI was close, but it got abandoned, and the forks do not go in the right direction.

Also, I need information-dense design, not whitespace-dominated design. Some of us build complex apps that display a lot of information and need tightly packed UI.

This is not hypothetical: I really do need to replace Semantic UI with something that is maintained and will work better on mobile screens. At a quick glance, my code has several thousand places where Semantic UI tags are used. If somebody picked up Semantic UI, started maintaining it without turning it into a JavaScript framework, and offered a $249/month subscription, I'd pick it up.

Re: Catalyst – Tailwind CSS Application UI Kit

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Post by dsissitka »

mokkol wrote: post #138
tipiirai wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think it's the surprisingly poor quality of Catalyst compared to their other products and also how limited it is considering the price.

This is an extra thing on top of everything they made. I praise them for not adding any extra costs. It is never enough for some people. They have a one off price for so much stuff. Absolutely no brainer for a lot of people.

> This is an extra thing on top of everything they made. I praise them for not adding any extra costs.

Only if you're an all access customer. Otherwise it's $149.

I like the Tailwind folks but $149 for Catalyst in its current state is a bit steep.

Re: Catalyst – Tailwind CSS Application UI Kit

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Post by reddalo »

djbusby wrote: post #44

May also want to see https://daisyui.com/ A FOSS Tailwind component library

From daisyUI home page:

> instead of writing 100 class names, use semantic class names

?!?

That defeats the whole purpose of Tailwind, which is not writing any semantic class name. I don't get it.

Re: Catalyst – Tailwind CSS Application UI Kit

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Post by JasonSage »

ncallaway wrote: post #92
bdlowery wrote: post #78

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I would not expect something labeled as “v0.1.0” as supposed to be finished. Weird unproductive comment tbh.

I would expect something labeled as $149 as supposed to be finished.

Nothing about $149 says anything about it being finished or not.

Re: Catalyst – Tailwind CSS Application UI Kit

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Post by redact207 »

andruby wrote: post #126

What's with all the negativity here on HN, especially about the pricing? The Tailwind team created one of the most used CSS frameworks ever and charge nothing for it. The framework needs a revenue stream to enable continued investment. Rails has basecamp. Bootstrap had twitter. React has meta. Tailwind has Tailwind UI. I find it great value. It's a one-off cost comparable to hiring a designer or front-end developer f…

I paid for the UI kit early last year and think it's good value. The amount of time its saved me has more than paid for itself, and it's just nice to have something that isn't a subscription model, or licensed per project.
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