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Re: Cybertruck Launch

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Post by MagicMoonlight »

owenpalmer wrote: post #113

This is what we call vehicle weight inflation. As cars get heavier and heavier, the roads get increasingly more dangerous for smaller cars, which causes everyone to get bigger cars. And the loop continues.

Everyone gets bigger cars because bigger cars have more room inside so they're really comfortable and practical.

Teslas are heavier because they have to use batteries and batteries are incredibly inefficient compared to petrol. This is the consequence of you asking them to get rid of combustion.

Re: Cybertruck Launch

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Post by jejeyyy77 »

dcdc123 wrote: post #124
jehb wrote: post #89

I wonder how much the demand for this vehicle has changed since it was first announced. I was definitely on the bandwagon from this thing from the first time I saw it. Four years of Elon's dumb antics and I now absolutely will not spend a dime at any company he's associated with.

I canceled my reservation over a year ago.

I'd buy yours off you

Re: Cybertruck Launch

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Post by datameta »

addicted wrote: post #121
jtriangle wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My mazda has absolutely HUGE a-pillars, which are, in my opinion, a far larger threat to pedestrians, than having a simply larger vehicle. Like you can fit a family of 4 with a stroller in mine, I find myself leaning way forward to check that blind spot every time I turn right. And even that is second fiddle to people using their phones while driving, which is an absolute plague in general, not just for pedestrian sa…

There’s a lot of evidence that larger vehicles are massive threats to pedestrians. I’m not sure what the evidence for huge A-pillars as a threat is, but if it’s worse than larger vehicles it does not in any way change the fact that larger vehicles are indeed a massive threat.

Quite literally in part due to mass.

Re: Cybertruck Launch

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Post by jtriangle »

acdha wrote: post #101
jtriangle wrote: post #87

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I'd guess that these are probably going to be one of the safest things to drive. It's bigger and heavier than most things on the road, which improves your odds if they do it right.

Safest for the driver, not the people they hit. Hopefully the insane repair costs for stainless steel will encourage at least some caution.

Yes, but NHTSA doesn't account for the safety of others, nor have they ever. They do have some pedestrian safety stuff, not sure if it's live yet, but, working on it.

In any case, the safety-class thing is really a big issue issue here, because you can buy a compact hatchback with a 5-star rating or a giant SUV with a 5-star rating, but those ratings aren't at-all comparable.

The thing is, making those ratings honest is really only going to make people want larger cars, because larger cars are actually safer. I think you could probably solve this by rating not only the car, but also the likelihood it will injure/kill a driver of the other classes of cars.

You could come up with some slick THIS vs THAT iconography, and that would allow people to realize that they're either driving an 8000lb death sled, or they'd rather not have that liability.

Re: Cybertruck Launch

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Post by rglullis »

adamrezich wrote: post #136
mkii wrote: post #105

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In a nation of embarrassed millionaires, I'm not surprised.

this has nothing to do with it though. it's not that most normal people like him—it's just, most normal people don't spend any portion of their daily lives ruminating on how much they hate someone they've never met, who is much wealthier and more successful than themselves, to the point of repeatedly expressing said hate on the Internet... well, at least, since about 2020 or so.

The whole tabloid industry and morning TV programming would like to have a word with you...

Re: Cybertruck Launch

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Post by slowhadoken »

SantalBlush wrote: post #93
talldatethrow wrote: post #82

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They really should. It's a good way not to die. Just like many of the motorcyclists that die should have worn helmets, not gone above the speed limit, and not drank alcohol. Those 3 things account for something like 60% of motorcycle deaths. Edit: The point is, people contribute heavily to their deaths on motorcycles. And I assume on foot too. Wearing ear phones? Chance of death through the roof. Talking on the phone…

This factoid about motorcycles is a complete non sequitur. It's as if someone forgot what they were talking about in the middle of making their point.

non sequitur? It's vehicle. He didn't break into song and dance about making sandwiches. By the way I just ate a sandwich.

Re: Cybertruck Launch

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Post by jejeyyy77 »

adamrezich wrote: post #99
jehb wrote: post #89

I wonder how much the demand for this vehicle has changed since it was first announced. I was definitely on the bandwagon from this thing from the first time I saw it. Four years of Elon's dumb antics and I now absolutely will not spend a dime at any company he's associated with.

how common do you think this perspective is? outside of places like this one, of course. as far as I can tell, the average person's perspective of the guy likely hasn't changed much in the past few years at all.

lol no-one gives af outside of small echo chambers.

People want the best cool shit.

Re: Cybertruck Launch

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Post by [deleted] »

sushid wrote: post #13
xp84 wrote: post #3

I'm rooting for it despite it being silly and not a practical pickup, strictly because every car people are buying looks identical (picture a crossover SUV from Toyota, Chevy, BMW etc. Basically shoe-shaped things). This looks like a concept car that would never come to market. I hope it sells really well and convinces others to bring actually-creative designs to market.

While I appreciate the unique design of the Cybertruck, I have a huge concern with its huge size and the potential safety risks for pedestrians. The trend of increasingly larger vehicles, like SUVs and trucks, has already raised issues regarding pedestrian safety. The Cybertruck, being notably larger than most contemporary cars in the same category, could exacerbate this problem, especially if it opens the door to si…

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Re: Cybertruck Launch

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Post by c-cube »

MagicMoonlight wrote: post #100
sushid wrote: post #13

Earlier quoted context omitted.

While I appreciate the unique design of the Cybertruck, I have a huge concern with its huge size and the potential safety risks for pedestrians. The trend of increasingly larger vehicles, like SUVs and trucks, has already raised issues regarding pedestrian safety. The Cybertruck, being notably larger than most contemporary cars in the same category, could exacerbate this problem, especially if it opens the door to si…

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Bravo for this accomplished display of victim blaming. If only pesky pedestrians stopped trying to get around on foot and got into their own private steel boxes, they'd be safer!
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