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Re: Banned from Kickstarter for Being a Stalking Victim

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post #134

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Hmm, this reddit account (brokenrobot23) http://www.reddit.com/user/brokenrobot23 was created a few hours ago in support of Rachel, as was your account (blingbling23), quite the coincidence, isn't it?

Even so I haven't seen one link backing up the "quote" from reddit. If it was true someone would have provided some sort of verification by now.

That is certainly true, I just pointing out the coincidence. That said, Rachel Haywire does have a history of creating drama within communities. I don't want to blame the victim, but every state has a cyberstalking protocol and if this has been going on for 10 years, I can't help but think there's a reason why.

Re: Banned from Kickstarter for Being a Stalking Victim

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This is one of her responses: "As you all know I have a rockin' tight ass, a successful project on Kickstarter that you've all funded, and a cyberstalker that goes by the name of FrankSinatraDirtyTalker1915@comcast.net. I originally met "Frank" back in College, where we dated for a bit. I should point out that he's not an old man, as his username might imply, but rather someone who is simply obsessed with Frank Sinat…

If its true (any direct link ?), it puts the whole conversing part into a different perspective.

Seems unlikely to be a true comment in this case.

However, She is a very odd cookie - and appears to have said some strange things (including engaging trolls) in the past. So I would believe Kickstarter if they said there was more "engagement" than Rachel lets on.

Re: Banned from Kickstarter for Being a Stalking Victim

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Oh man, not this girl again. Let's just say she is known for being at the center of drama wherever she goes. She has a very long history of libel and public feuds related to her "music project." In one of many incidents, her and her mother sent DMCA takedown requests to LiveJournal based on negative information being posted by another user (completely unrelated to copyright). Please do not give her attention. At leas…

Electric Hellfire Club / Terrorfakt Responds To Nazi Allegations

posted May 18, 2010 at 12:44 PM by xFiruath. (1 Comment)

Wilhelm Curse of The Electric Hellfire Club has checked in with the following statement about allegations that Terrofakt band mate Ben DeWalt is involved with Nazism:

"For any of the fans of the EHC who are into rhythmic noise and hard industrial; some of you may have heard the escalating rumor that Ben DeWalt, my friend, co-conspirator, and the founder of Terrofakt, is a Nazi. This could not be further from the truth. Ben has been our close friend for nearly 15 years, and we know that he is anything but a white supremacist. For the last few years I have had the privilege to play with Ben, as a member of Terrorfakt. During this time, I have come to know Ben much better than I ever did during the years that he represented the EHC. He is my close friend, and comrade in arms. He is a proud patriotic American, who firmly believes in the values that this great nation was founded on... among those being that all of us are created equal.

"My time with Terrorfakt has introduced me to many other associated acts and musicians, and to Terrorfakt's fanatically loyal fan base, all being of various ethnic and even religious backgrounds. Accordingly, I can categorically deny that any of these accusations have any merit to them. This smear campaign against Ben is perpetuated by an Industrial music outcast named Rachel Mandelson. She is more 'popularly' known as the idiot behind 'Experiment Haywire.' She is an individual who has failed to garner any success on her own, and has taken to making slanderous and libelous accusations against a much more popular and successful act, in order to gain attention for herself.

"Her entire issue with Terrorfakt stems from Ben's refusal to peddle her merch at a music festival that she gained illegal entry to, thereby denying the performing bands (and promoter) their just compensation. She blames everyone but herself for her failure as a musician, and claiming that Ben has ruined her 'career' because of her Jewish heritage is her way of trying to garner sympathy through portraying herself as a victim, rather that simply a failure. I have long been a believer in the old show business saying of 'There is no such thing as bad press,' and to automatically confirm any rumor told about me (or the EHC) as being true. However, Ben finds the contention of his being a Nazi to be offensive, and clearing his name is of personal importance to him. To that end, I have felt the need to address the issue publicly, and to support my friend. I ask you, our fans, to help put a stop to this rumor, by correcting anyone that you hear repeating it, and to not support Rachel Mandelson or Experiment Haywire in any way."

    Kent
    Below is a repost from Kinetik Productions Inc.:

    Kinetik Productions Inc
    Montreal (Qc) Canada
    NEQ: 1164635469
    www.festival-kinetik.net

    Object : Rachel Haywire / machineKUNT Records / Experiment Haywire

    Montréal, November 29th 2009,

    Kinetik Productions wishes to bring to your attention the continual attack from Ms. Haywire against the Kinetik Festival and Kinetik Productions company image. Over the past 3 years, we have asked several websites to remove her harmful and derogative comments concerning the Kinetik Festival and the musical acts present during the festival.

    Unfortunately, she had made a personal business to attack the festival and some bands performing during Kinetik festival, without investigating the alleged facts. She tried to put down the festival based on her statements. The severity and frequency of her false allegations gives us no choice but to warn you against Ms Rachel Haywire.

    For the past three years, we had to get in touch with Ms Haywire in order to ask her to stop these repeated, intrusive and unwanted words, intended to adversely affect the reputation of the bands and the Kinetik festival. She, unfortunately, neglected to answer our demands and continued attacking the festival and its acts.

    The Kinetik festival mission is to cultivate originality, innovation and diversity in the musical performance arena. During this event, several emerging and well-established artists gather in Montreal to celebrate. We have worked hard to bring together this dream and cannot tolerate Ms Haywire incessant and derogatory comments.

    The Festival past editions have shown the audience, the industry and the musicians how professional, distinguish and well organized the festival is. In collaboration with the major labels, production companies and bands, Kinetik Festival is pleased to bring together the largest North American electro-Industrial festival.

    With this letter, we wish to raise the concern and bring to your attention this abnormal situation, as some of you may have worked in collaboration with Ms. Haywire in the past.

    In many occasion, Ms Haywise made disparaging comments concerning the Kinetik Festival and among other, the band Terrorfakt. Erroneously giving them a Neo-Nazi / white power denominate. She opened numerous website and posted several comments in order to gain some visibility and credibility with these disparaging remarks and trying to affect the festival.

    Being officially recognized by the Canadian government and other governmental institutions, we cannot, under any circumstance, endorse this form of harassment. We trust that you will take similar action and no longer work with her on any level.

    Jean-Francois Fortin Gadoury
    Director Kinetik Productions
    jffortin@festival-kinetik.net

    Cc : Metropolis records, Out of Lines records, Blackrain records, Noitekk records, Artoffact Records, Pronoize, Storming the Base, Music None Stop, DSBP, Neuwerk management, Protain management, Soman, Blank, Caustic, Leaether Strip, XP8, Ambassador 21, Grendel, Feindflug, Terrorfakt, Hocico, KMFDM, Kommor Komando, Autoclav 1.1, FGFC820, Noisex, Alter Der Ruine, Kiew,

    *Please feel free to forward this to anyone that may find it interesting and beneficial.
    over a year ago
    Kent
    In my opinion Ms Haywire is one crazy person!
    over a year ago
    Rebekka
    Well duh. The good thing is that everyone knows it....... :)
    over a year ago
    Rodentsky
    Thank's for the official post. I'll put on my group as well.
    over a year ago
    Len
    She's definitely off her rocker! I've known Ben for 17 years, and a Nazi (or neo-Nazi) he's not! Why does Ms. Haywire have to start stuff every year?
    over a year ago
    Su
    That not just your opinion Kent she has been pretty vocal about her "issues" on her personal page.

    Len I have noticed that people with chemical imbalances tend to peak seasonally in the spring and fall. I am not sure why (?)

    Ironically she came up in conversation just a few says before this most recent spontaneous combustion and I remarked that she was in some ways admirable. THIS nonsense is just a level of unnecessary crazy and I think she has done irreparable damage this time. I wish she could have funneled her energy more productively.

    It is rather tragic.

Re: Banned from Kickstarter for Being a Stalking Victim

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Oh man, not this girl again. Let's just say she is known for being at the center of drama wherever she goes. She has a very long history of libel and public feuds related to her "music project." In one of many incidents, her and her mother sent DMCA takedown requests to LiveJournal based on negative information being posted by another user (completely unrelated to copyright). Please do not give her attention. At leas…

Ms. Jaeger:

It has come to my attention that Rachel Mendelson aka "Rachel Marone" aka "Rachel Haywire" aka "Transhuman X" may be allowed to use kickstarter again only 2 years after she took $3,000 with a fraudulent kickstarter effort. People are angrily posting on this page even as of a few months ago, and she has no plans to print the CD or to make any of the charitable contribution percentage she promised from this project. Please do not allow her to make any more kickstarter efforts, and defraud more people. Here is the page and the comments from people who never got their CD from her. By kickstarter's own rules, she should be required to return the donations at this point, not start a new fraudulent kickstarter campaign. She is very likely to start a new kickstarter account called 'Rachel Marone', be aware she is abusing kickstarter for financially fraudulent purposes.

Here is the link to the project that never did anything but take money:

http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/machinekuntrecords/sanit...

where you can see comments of complaint from its backers:

"If you’re a backer of this project, please log in to read this post. 3 of 4 View Previous Comments

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        Erik Roy Tomren on September 26, 2011

        so when is this coming out? the hard copy version, not the download.
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        Cat on February 24

        It's a year after this posting, almost two years after this was funded, and I have yet to receive my hard copy of this album. Very displeased. :/
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        Steve Cross on March 15

        Is the hard copy ever going to appear. A further update would be nice. I am not very happy!!

Re: Banned from Kickstarter for Being a Stalking Victim

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Please read the following in an exasperated tone of voice, because that's what I feel here. The problem is the very public trashing of kickstarter on her blog, combined with the multitude of people who have had run-ins with Rachael over the past few years calling her "crazy" etc. Allegedly the FBI are uninterested in prosecuting the cyber stalker. However since coming across this today I've seen nothing that indicate…

Why is it that people like Rachael always have drama around them? I know people like this. Everyone is out to get them and people are always doing something to them (oh yeah, the world needs to know about it). I feel like she probably brought this onto herself somehow. Stalking is serious, if did happen, something needs to be done.

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Re: Banned from Kickstarter for Being a Stalking Victim

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Except for the fact that she should absolutely _not_ have engaged and/or acknowledged the stalker, I don't see a problem at all with the formulations/rhetoric in this response. She kept the vocabulary clean[1], and the content should not bother any grown-up at all. I don't know the demographic of her project, but if this connects with them, the wording of this seems perfectly okay to me. [1]: I guess that depends on…

> She kept the vocabulary clean It may have been "clean" in the sense that little profanity was used, but it was also full of sexual slang and drug references, and clearly intended to shame Frank (not saying he didn't deserve it, but on the other hand I think a bit more tact is in order). So I could see Kickstarter considering it a violation of the "Don't post obscene, hateful, or objectionable content. If you do we…

  > So I could see Kickstarter considering it a violation
  > of the "Don't post obscene, hateful, or objectionable
  > content. If you do we will remove it and suspend you."
  > guideline.
I hate speculation like this. If Kickstarter considered it in violation of that part of their TOS, then why not explicitly state so rather than saying that she was 'encouraging spam' and that spam is in violation of the TOS? Chances are that they did not consider it a violation of those terms.

Re: Banned from Kickstarter for Being a Stalking Victim

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post #84

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I believe Kickstarter has an obligation to treat Rachel like a customer. I believe they are capable of building the tool needed to deliver a good experience to customers like Rachel. I don't support the specific language Rachel might have used, but I empathize with Rachel's frustration with Kickstarter's flawed process. I met Rachel a few months ago. She seems nice. I know she has all this weird unresolved drama from…

> but I have a strict no drama allowed rule You might want to stop feeding this ridiculous thread. IHBT.

Isn't it strange how, whenever that phrase or something similar is transmitted, inevitably drama ensues?

Re: Banned from Kickstarter for Being a Stalking Victim

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post #132
post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I believe Kickstarter has an obligation to treat Rachel like a customer. I believe they are capable of building the tool needed to deliver a good experience to customers like Rachel. I don't support the specific language Rachel might have used, but I empathize with Rachel's frustration with Kickstarter's flawed process. I met Rachel a few months ago. She seems nice. I know she has all this weird unresolved drama from…

> but I have a strict no drama allowed rule You might want to stop feeding this ridiculous thread. IHBT.

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Re: Banned from Kickstarter for Being a Stalking Victim

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Flagged.

Look, folks, this article's sole relevance to HN is that it involves Kickstarter's banning policies. There's no coding, no real startupy stuff--just a ban on the premier crowdfunding site.

Unfortunately, any meaningful discussion of said ban requires we better understand the events leading up to the ban. That in turn requires more information than we are likely to get, and certainly more unbiased information than is available.

Without that information, we can't usefully discuss Kickstarter, we can't really discuss how to handle a case like this (as we wouldn't know what the case is like, exactly), and we sure as hell can't learn anything useful.

With that information (let us pretend it is even attainable), all we are doing is spelunking internet drama and finding a weird edge case that frankly is most easily solved by a blanket banhammer.

I appreciate that Kickstarter may be in the wrong. I also appreciate that the "victim" here apparently has several pseudonyms(annoying) and is arguably a troll/drama queen/lulzcow/whatever.

The point is, we don't need to waste any time on this. This is dumb internet shit--boot it out.

Re: Banned from Kickstarter for Being a Stalking Victim

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post #61

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The hunt for my stalker continues yet has been unsuccessful as of now. The FBI having bigger fish to fry. The police say that he is “good at what he does.” Can people like this be stopped if they cannot be found? http://experimenthaywire.net/is-there-a-solution-to-cybersta...

More unsubstiantiated claims from the same source are not really a good foundation for support.

I have no bone in this fight, but it seems to me that at the very least, the issue is much more complex than she made it seem in her blog post, and there are a lot of pieces of the puzzle missing. My BS detectors were sounding the alarm, but they always do that when I read unsupported claims.

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