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Ubuntu squeezes more performance than Windows 11 on new AMD Zen 4 Threadripper

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Re: Ubuntu squeezes more performance than Windows 11 on new AMD Zen 4 Threadripper

#141

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the NT filesystem is optimized for a different workload a different workload than browsing files in explorer?

TWUP (Transactional Windows Update Processing)

LOL had me fooled for a minute there.

oh wait maybe this isn't a joke? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transactional_NTFS

Re: Ubuntu squeezes more performance than Windows 11 on new AMD Zen 4 Threadripper

#142

I've been playing around with Ubuntu training myself for the day that I have to give up windows 10. My only complaints are that Linux can be tedious, everything is just 43 commands away; it requires greater understanding of not just what the system is doing, but how it is doing it; and the documentation is written like a Wikipedia article on advanced nuclear theory. Windows and OSX have, for the most part, just worke…

YMMV. I switched off of OSX as my primary machine around 2015 and moved to full time Linux. Just decided to commit and fully dove in. I tried several different flavors for months at a time from Fedora to Ubuntu. Eventually I settled on PopOS. I was really happy with everything up until my work shifted to management and spending > half my day on Zoom calls. For some reason, I periodically would have issues with periph…

>"For some reason, I periodically would have issues with peripherals. Picking the wrong mic, having to close and reopen Zoom, correct camera not working, etc.".

This problem is probably even worse on windows for me, FYI.

Re: Ubuntu squeezes more performance than Windows 11 on new AMD Zen 4 Threadripper

#143

I've been playing around with Ubuntu training myself for the day that I have to give up windows 10. My only complaints are that Linux can be tedious, everything is just 43 commands away; it requires greater understanding of not just what the system is doing, but how it is doing it; and the documentation is written like a Wikipedia article on advanced nuclear theory. Windows and OSX have, for the most part, just worke…

YMMV. I switched off of OSX as my primary machine around 2015 and moved to full time Linux. Just decided to commit and fully dove in. I tried several different flavors for months at a time from Fedora to Ubuntu. Eventually I settled on PopOS. I was really happy with everything up until my work shifted to management and spending > half my day on Zoom calls. For some reason, I periodically would have issues with periph…

Have you tried a modern Fedora? I don't know about Alienware but for me in a wide range of laptops (including Intel Macbook Pros) hardware issues are a thing of the past.

Re: Ubuntu squeezes more performance than Windows 11 on new AMD Zen 4 Threadripper

#144

I've been playing around with Ubuntu training myself for the day that I have to give up windows 10. My only complaints are that Linux can be tedious, everything is just 43 commands away; it requires greater understanding of not just what the system is doing, but how it is doing it; and the documentation is written like a Wikipedia article on advanced nuclear theory. Windows and OSX have, for the most part, just worke…

YMMV. I switched off of OSX as my primary machine around 2015 and moved to full time Linux. Just decided to commit and fully dove in. I tried several different flavors for months at a time from Fedora to Ubuntu. Eventually I settled on PopOS. I was really happy with everything up until my work shifted to management and spending > half my day on Zoom calls. For some reason, I periodically would have issues with periph…

Have you tried pipewire? It fixed some weird issues like the ones you mention for me

Re: Ubuntu squeezes more performance than Windows 11 on new AMD Zen 4 Threadripper

#145

I've been playing around with Ubuntu training myself for the day that I have to give up windows 10. My only complaints are that Linux can be tedious, everything is just 43 commands away; it requires greater understanding of not just what the system is doing, but how it is doing it; and the documentation is written like a Wikipedia article on advanced nuclear theory. Windows and OSX have, for the most part, just worke…

Ubuntu is mostly fine and a good middle ground for new users between bleeding edge (Arch, Fedora) and outdated software (Debian) IMHO. It's also probably the best place to start simply because of the mountains of documentation that exist for it because of its large userbase. I would also like to add that often you'll find answers to stuff telling you to use a couple of commands when instead you could use existing gui…

Instructions like type "this and that" in a terminal are short and perfectly reproducible. Instructions like open Settings, find This, click that" are less precise and could leave people stuck halfway.

Even on Windows forums there are often NET USE or Powershell commands mixed with instructions to perform the same task using GUI apps.

Re: Ubuntu squeezes more performance than Windows 11 on new AMD Zen 4 Threadripper

#146

I've been playing around with Ubuntu training myself for the day that I have to give up windows 10. My only complaints are that Linux can be tedious, everything is just 43 commands away; it requires greater understanding of not just what the system is doing, but how it is doing it; and the documentation is written like a Wikipedia article on advanced nuclear theory. Windows and OSX have, for the most part, just worke…

Linux Mint is quite good. It’s my go to, the UI makes sense

Re: Ubuntu squeezes more performance than Windows 11 on new AMD Zen 4 Threadripper

#147

I've been playing around with Ubuntu training myself for the day that I have to give up windows 10. My only complaints are that Linux can be tedious, everything is just 43 commands away; it requires greater understanding of not just what the system is doing, but how it is doing it; and the documentation is written like a Wikipedia article on advanced nuclear theory. Windows and OSX have, for the most part, just worke…

I have used the main OS. Linux (plain LTS Ubuntu) has worked way better than anything else, as long as the software was available. With Figma and an iPad I do not need a Mac or Windows anymore. I still have a separate hard disk for Windows for an occasional game.

Sometimes I reboot and people are surprised how quick I am back. Also I use only wired accessories, so that might be a factor.

Re: Ubuntu squeezes more performance than Windows 11 on new AMD Zen 4 Threadripper

#148

I've been playing around with Ubuntu training myself for the day that I have to give up windows 10. My only complaints are that Linux can be tedious, everything is just 43 commands away; it requires greater understanding of not just what the system is doing, but how it is doing it; and the documentation is written like a Wikipedia article on advanced nuclear theory. Windows and OSX have, for the most part, just worke…

Same here but the other way. I find Linux much simpler to grasp than endless hard to navigate menus, windows where each is from different land, registry, shell and what not. I rarely use Windows but when I do, it feels like MS either ruined it or I simply forgot how to do things. I used to think like you so I guess it's just a matter of taking the leap and learning new OS Bonus points: no ads, no Edge or Drive bullsh…

If you’re having to faff about with the registry every day you’re doing it wrong!

Re: Ubuntu squeezes more performance than Windows 11 on new AMD Zen 4 Threadripper

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performance means nothing if the software you require doesn't run on it

which is why I "need" Linux. The software that I need, will run on Windows, but hardly and always with great effort and abysmal stability. And sometimes not at all. ruby/rbenv, nvm/node, rust/cargo, docker, nvim, ripgrep, git, rsync, ssh. All of which I sometimes, somehow managed to get running at some point when helping co-workers with their Windows machines. But the amount of fiddling, trial-and-errorring and such…

I use a chunk of those. They work absolutely fine on WSL2.

My windows machine can quite happily pull shit out of Excel files, into R/Python stack on Linux and squirt them back out into SQL Server with no real cohesion issues. Also I mostly spend all day with VScode open on a Linux box from windows.

I also maintain old windows stuff on windows and loads of infra from Linux. It all just works together fine. And it stays working (unlike my 25 year long hate affair with the linux desktop)

Oh and I own a Mac as well for when I want to do some shit I actually care about rather than just earn money from.

Re: Ubuntu squeezes more performance than Windows 11 on new AMD Zen 4 Threadripper

#150

Earlier quoted context omitted.

YMMV. I switched off of OSX as my primary machine around 2015 and moved to full time Linux. Just decided to commit and fully dove in. I tried several different flavors for months at a time from Fedora to Ubuntu. Eventually I settled on PopOS. I was really happy with everything up until my work shifted to management and spending > half my day on Zoom calls. For some reason, I periodically would have issues with periph…

Have you tried a modern Fedora? I don't know about Alienware but for me in a wide range of laptops (including Intel Macbook Pros) hardware issues are a thing of the past.

For 90% of things I'd agree with you. When it was plugged into a USB hub that had a couple of cameras, mics and speakers there would be issues.

It's entirely possible that the hub itself was a problem but it hasn't been an issue thus far with Windows.

I _really_ hoped that WSL would be better than it is when I decided to try this. It's quirky.

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