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I tested four NVMe SSDs from four vendors – half lose FLUSH'd data on power loss (2022)

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Re: I tested four NVMe SSDs from four vendors – half lose FLUSH'd data on power loss (2022)

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Post by nraynaud »

KennyBlanken wrote: post #80
CoastalCoder wrote: post #32

Does advertising a product as adhering to some standard, but secretly knowing that it doesn't 100%, count as e.g. fraud? I.e., is there any established case law on the matter? I'm thinking of this example, but also more generally USB devices, Bluetooth devices, etc.

Merchantability and implied fitness? You absolutely could try sue the in small claims court for damages. For extra fun: if the box carries a trademark from a standards group, you could try adding them into the suit; use of their trademarked logo could be argued to be implied fitness, if there are standards the drive is supposed to meet to use it. At the very least they might get tired of the expense of the expense of…

I don't think it's even implied fitness. Declaring you support SCSI commands is probably a direct advertisement of conformance.

Re: I tested four NVMe SSDs from four vendors – half lose FLUSH'd data on power loss (2022)

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Post by [deleted] »

andybak wrote: post #117
usr1106 wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We should just learn to ignore people still posting on Twitter (which is called something else now).

I'm still posting on Twitter because the people I'm trying to reach are still there and the alternatives never materialised.

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Re: I tested four NVMe SSDs from four vendors – half lose FLUSH'd data on power loss (2022)

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Post by FridgeSeal »

matheusmoreira wrote: post #120
hsbauauvhabzb wrote: post #49

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Hardware vendors are known to swap to cheaper lower performance hardware after reviews are out which in my eyes is fraud, whether or not the law agrees is a different story.

Please name the vendors that do this so I can avoid them.

Samsung was caught doing this with their 970 pro( plus? Their naming is awful) - they swapped out the controller in a good portion of devices which resulted in significantly lower read and write performance.

Re: I tested four NVMe SSDs from four vendors – half lose FLUSH'd data on power loss (2022)

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Post by yorwba »

alanfranz wrote: post #123
_Algernon_ wrote: post #115

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>So, what to do if the original title is misleading? I'd suggest posting an alternative, non-misleading source instead, or if none exists, don't post at all.

Personally, I _do_ editorialize by posting a “summary” of what a post discusses, if there’s no real title. I try not to make it pass as my own opinion; sometimes it happened that mods reverted it to the original, less relevant title.

The trick is to write the summary from the point of view of the original author, preferably by lifting a quote from the text.

https://hackernewstitles.netlify.app/ has a recent example "Kevin Scott (MSFT CTO) inviting all Open AI employees to join MSFT" which sounds like the title of a third-party article describing said event, but actually directly points to the Microsoft CTO's tweet with the offer https://twitter.com/kevin_scott/status/1726971608706031670 so it got edited to a quote "If needed, you have a role at Microsoft that matches your compensation" which is an attempt to summarize the content but doesn't provide additional context so it might be condidered more clickbaity https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38364315

Re: I tested four NVMe SSDs from four vendors – half lose FLUSH'd data on power loss (2022)

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Post by WendyTheWillow »

andybak wrote: post #117
usr1106 wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We should just learn to ignore people still posting on Twitter (which is called something else now).

I'm still posting on Twitter because the people I'm trying to reach are still there and the alternatives never materialised.

Then you are still part of the problem.

Besides, if you're trying to reach the people who remain on Twitter, that says a decent amount about you.

Re: I tested four NVMe SSDs from four vendors – half lose FLUSH'd data on power loss (2022)

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Post by jtwaleson »

cm2187 wrote: post #134
ricardobeat wrote: post #44

Misleading headline since after testing eight more drives, none more failed. 2/12 is not nearly as dramatic as “half”, and the ones that lost data are the cheap brands as one would expect.

To me the real thing missing is whether those drive advertise power loss protection or not. The next question is whether they are to be used in a laptop where power loss protection is less relevant given the local battery.

That should be irrelevant, because flush is flush right? If your SSD does not write the data after a flush it's violating basic hard drive functionality.

Re: I tested four NVMe SSDs from four vendors – half lose FLUSH'd data on power loss (2022)

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Post by shiroiuma »

thanhhaimai wrote: post #68
alanfranz wrote: post #58

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You can either not editorialize the title, and accept that the thread contains updates, or editorialize it and violate HN guidelines. Either choice will lead somebody to complain

It's clear from the guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38365934#38368867 Specifically: use the original title, then express your view as a top level comment. If people agree with it, the comment is naturally voted up.

This sounds like the religious idea that "the magical Invisible Hand of the Free Market will ensure that only the best-run businesses survive."

Re: I tested four NVMe SSDs from four vendors – half lose FLUSH'd data on power loss (2022)

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Post by andybak »

WendyTheWillow wrote: post #146
andybak wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm still posting on Twitter because the people I'm trying to reach are still there and the alternatives never materialised.

Then you are still part of the problem. Besides, if you're trying to reach the people who remain on Twitter, that says a decent amount about you.

"users of my application".

You seem to be claiming that everyone still on Twitter is ideologically compromised. There's a ton of people just ignoring the politics and I still need a channel to reach them.

Re: I tested four NVMe SSDs from four vendors – half lose FLUSH'd data on power loss (2022)

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Post by antiloper »

WendyTheWillow wrote: post #146
andybak wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm still posting on Twitter because the people I'm trying to reach are still there and the alternatives never materialised.

Then you are still part of the problem. Besides, if you're trying to reach the people who remain on Twitter, that says a decent amount about you.

This is the only correct answer, if you don't like the boss of a social media company, you should just cut all ties with everyone on there. Then lock yourself into your room, never go outside again, and complain about it on HN.
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