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OpenAI's employees were given two explanations for why Sam Altman was fired

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Re: OpenAI's employees were given two explanations for why Sam Altman was fired

#141

> The people asked for anonymity because they are not authorized to share internal matters. Their identities are known to Business Insider. why would you say that second sentence? what's it supposed to signal, except "our sources asked for anonymity, and we're respecting that for now "?

It helps confirm they're actually employees, rather than someone just pretending to be one.

Doesn't necessarily mean they are employees, just not authorized to discuss internal OAI matters

Re: OpenAI's employees were given two explanations for why Sam Altman was fired

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So Surdkever fires Altman, then signs a letter saying they’ll quit unless he’s reinstated. There’s only 4 board members, right? Who wanted him fired. Is this a situation where they all thought the others wanted him fired and were just stupid? Have they been feeding motions into chatgpt and asking “should add I do this?”

Seems most likely Sustkever wanted him fired and then realized his mistake. Ultimately the board was probably quietly seething about the direction the company was headed, got mad enough to retake the reigns with that stunt and then realized what that actually meant. Now they are trying to unring the bell but cannot.

Trying to put the toothpaste back in the tube.

Re: OpenAI's employees were given two explanations for why Sam Altman was fired

#143

Baseless prediction: MSFT buys ownership of OpenAI's for/capped-profit entities, implements a more typical corporate governance structure, re-instates Altman and Brockman. OpenAI non-profit continues to exist with a few staff and no IP but billions in cash. This whole situation is being used to drive the price down to reduce the amount the OpenAI non-profit is left with. SV don't try the "capped-profit owned by a non…

Why would the board endorse the sale?

Re: OpenAI's employees were given two explanations for why Sam Altman was fired

#144

> The people asked for anonymity because they are not authorized to share internal matters. Their identities are known to Business Insider. why would you say that second sentence? what's it supposed to signal, except "our sources asked for anonymity, and we're respecting that for now "?

No, it is standard journalism practice to verify sources and protect their identity. The comment is just clarifying that the sources are not completely anonymous.

Re: OpenAI's employees were given two explanations for why Sam Altman was fired

#146

> The people asked for anonymity because they are not authorized to share internal matters. Their identities are known to Business Insider. why would you say that second sentence? what's it supposed to signal, except "our sources asked for anonymity, and we're respecting that for now "?

Because they verified the person's identity. They are not announcing it publicly, but their journalists verified their employer. It's still a trust us scenario, but it makes explicit that they did verify.

Re: OpenAI's employees were given two explanations for why Sam Altman was fired

#147

If Altman ends up going back to OpenAI, then shouldn't Sutskever be fired/kicked off the board too?

They may retain him, but his time of being on the board or any board is at an end. The rest of the board. My god. Why were they there?

Two words. “Tech entrepreneur”

Re: OpenAI's employees were given two explanations for why Sam Altman was fired

#148
post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Or...you call Sama and say "hey just an FYI, they asked me to be CEO and I said yes. I have no idea what's going on, and I'm loyal so keep me in the loop if we're going to leave or something".

I think you should ask these questions before you say yes.

Friends close, enemies closer and all that.

Re: OpenAI's employees were given two explanations for why Sam Altman was fired

#149

There is no way this is true. If it is the board might be the dumbest people alive. You fire the CEO and completely destroy a 90b company because of these two reasons? No wonder everyone wants out. I would think I was going crazy if I sat in a meeting and heard these two reason.

> If it is the board might be the dumbest people alive. it totally sounds like they outsourced company management to ChatGPT..

Maybe all this craziness is to generate training material for GPT5.

Re: OpenAI's employees were given two explanations for why Sam Altman was fired

#150

"Sustkever is said to have offered two explanations he purportedly received from the board" I'd like some corroboration for that statement because Sustkever has said very inconsistent things during this whole merry debacle.

Would you go so far as to say he was not consistently candid...?
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