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Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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Post by _mh56 »

[This is not in response to the satya's tweet but the general articles or opinions in social media.]

Please keep in mind that the articles you read are PR pieces, last few being from Sam's Camp.

msft/sequioa/khosla has no power to remove the board or alter their actions. There is no gain for board by reinstating Sam and resigning themselves. swaying employees who have 900k$ comp is pretty hard. and not giving money to OpenAI is akin to killing your golden goose.

The idea is that Altman and/or a bunch of employees were demanding the board reinstate Altman and then resign. And they’re calling it a “truce.” Oh, and there’s a deadline (5 pm), but since it’s already passed the board merely has to “reach” this “truce” “ASAP.” This is by far my favourite example of PR piece.

I'd recommend not reading rumors and waiting for things to come out officially. Or atleast re-evaluating after a week, how much you read was false.

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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Post by siva7 »

throwaw12 wrote: post #36

Others from OpenAI team, maybe can lead the AI research, but how does Sam can lead a research group? IMO, to lead a research group you need some decent research skills, Sam is good at business

He did lead together with greg at openai. Not as researchers. For that they hired the initial research team.

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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Post by threeseed »

Satam wrote: post #52
gog-ma-gog wrote: post #4

This actually seems like a decent compromise. Sam and Greg can retain velocity on the product side without having to spin up a whole new operation in direct competition with their old levers of power, and Ilya + co can remain in possession of the keys to the kingdom.

Except they only had AI model velocity and not product velocity. The user-side implementation of chatGPT is actually quite below what would be expected based on their AI superiority. So the parts that Sam & Greg should be responsible for are actually not great.

Sam and Greg were responsible for everything including building the company, deciding on strategy, raising funding, hiring most of the team, coordinating the research, building the partnership with Microsoft and acquiring the huge array of enterprise customers.

To act like they were just responsible for the "UI parts" is ridiculous.

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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Post by dagmx »

Seems like a logical choice. Microsoft’s next big play is generative AI, and they’ve put a lot of money into that. They need to show they’re taking steps to stabilize things now that their hype factory has come unraveled. I don’t think they particularly need these people , because they likely already have in house talent that is competitive. But having these people on board now will allow them to paint a much more stable picture to their shareholders.

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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Post by skygazer »

Joeri wrote: post #49

This might turn out to be a lot more stable structure long term: the commercialization of AI under Microsoft's brand, with Microsoft's resources, and the deep research into advanced AI under OpenAI. This could shield the research division of OpenAI from undue pressure from the product side, in a way that it probably couldn't when everything was under one roof.

Ugh. I’m not keen on AGI being an eventual Microsoft product, or after this circus, even the hangers on at Open AI. Hope it’s still decades off and this all is a silly side show footnote.

Re: Sam Altman, Greg Brockman and others to join Microsoft

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Post by rvz »

So essentially a promotion at Microsoft to create an AI division, the real OpenAI, Sam and Greg have been tasked to create another DeepMind / OpenAI inside of Microsoft.

Might as well have acquired OpenAI in the first place given that it was 49% owned by Microsoft anyway but taken over by a coup.

Now we'll see if the employees who are quitting will follow Sam and Greg. Google is still at risk without Gemini being released.

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