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Nothing Phone says it will hack into iMessage, bring blue bubbles to Android
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Re: Nothing Phone says it will hack into iMessage, bring blue bubbles to Android
#142Everyone is concerned about providing their Apple credentials but I think you can always create a throwaway Apple ID on a separate e-mail (or move yours off your primary email) so that there's nothing sensitive in the account besides the messages themselves?
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#143Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why punish Apple for Google failing to create a good messaging service? Google failed to compete against iMessage in the US and failed to compete with Whatsapp worldwide. Now you want the government to step in to help Google make more money? Let the competition dictate it. No need for the government to get involved. Maybe Google can spend $50 billion to create and market an alternative to iMessage if they truly care…
Interestingly, the only ones talking about this comes from the Android / Google / regulatory side. Apple users are as far as I can tell happy the way it is.
yeah well fuck apple users feelings. force apple to open it up.
Re: Nothing Phone says it will hack into iMessage, bring blue bubbles to Android
#144Trivial for Apple to shut them out, unfortunately. It would be great to have an easy to use, low friction messaging platform that wasn't controlled by FB or the Telcos. I like Signal but haven't been able to get my family members on board. Edit: Alternative ongoing discussion I noticed: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=38268184 (3 comments)
That platform or exists. It is not free. The price of admission is buying an apple device. Part of the price pays for the platform. All of that seems reasonable
None of that is even slightly reasonable. A messaging platform that(for no technical reason) only works on one hardware platform is a complete non-starter.
Re: Nothing Phone says it will hack into iMessage, bring blue bubbles to Android
#145Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why punish Apple for Google failing to create a good messaging service? Google failed to compete against iMessage in the US and failed to compete with Whatsapp worldwide. Now you want the government to step in to help Google make more money? Let the competition dictate it. No need for the government to get involved. Maybe Google can spend $50 billion to create and market an alternative to iMessage if they truly care…
Interestingly, the only ones talking about this comes from the Android / Google / regulatory side. Apple users are as far as I can tell happy the way it is.
Well you're talking about a userbase that's ecstatic to be overcharged for every single thing, and are heavily conditioned by Apple to view themselves as superior to other people because they bought a product.
Re: Nothing Phone says it will hack into iMessage, bring blue bubbles to Android
#146Hopefully the EU (or, in an alternate reality, the US) will eventually force Apple to finally implement RCS messages (or, less likely, open up iMessage).
Yes, but also why there aren’t any RCS iOS out so users can choose?
Re: Nothing Phone says it will hack into iMessage, bring blue bubbles to Android
#147Is this a US specific thing? Why do people want to have their messages seen in blue bubbles so much? Why not just use another messaging app such as WhatsApp, Telegram, Signal, etc?
Because iMessage seamlessly integrates into SMS/MMS, and very few Americans rely on alternative apps for their primary messaging platform.
As for why blue bubbles? No idea. Best guess is it's seen as a status thing - green bubbles are non-iPhone users. The only other theory I have is that iMessage is cross-platform with other Apple devices, but that is a strong argument for other messaging apps IMO.
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#148Earlier quoted context omitted.
Arguably false. Are you trying to imply that Apple users are the only common users of messages other than text or that Apple users use third party messaging instead? Lots of providers implement RCS, lots of people use it. Perhaps none of the people in your particular region/circle of contacts do? My contacts almost all use signal. The exceptions where there are people that don't have any third party messaging apps, t…
I’m curious about your region and your social circle (genuine question, not provocative). Absolutely zero of my contacts use signal. Some use element. Zero use iMessage. Almost 100% use WhatsApp. I’m in Europe, middle class, family with kids, both parents working here.
And RCS being worse, as people don't even know it exists so they don't even accidentally use it.
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#149Earlier quoted context omitted.
Telegram needs a phone number register but then you can text people only by username. Both Signal and WhatsApp have announced usernames, Signal already has a beta version of the app with username support out.
They announced a long time ago. Unless it's an actual feature, you are tied to a phone number. All the examples require your phone number.
They (Signal) made this[0] blog post last week with APK downloads for testing it in the staging environment (completely without phone number). So if you want to test it, you can already do that right now.
I think it will hit production in early 2024, pretty soon. Whatsapp is also going forward with a similar feature as a reaction to the Signal updates [1], although not entirely sure if it will work with no phone number at all.
[0]: https://community.signalusers.org/t/public-username-testing-... [1]: https://www.androidpolice.com/whatsapp-usernames-channels/
Re: Nothing Phone says it will hack into iMessage, bring blue bubbles to Android
#150Earlier quoted context omitted.
Telegram needs a phone number register but then you can text people only by username. Both Signal and WhatsApp have announced usernames, Signal already has a beta version of the app with username support out.
Interesting, I didn't know that. The real question is, if someone adds me by username, will they still be able to see my phone number after that?
I don't think so, unless you allow them to (like in telegram). Should be available in Signal in early 2024.