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Omegle 2009-2023

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Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Post by [deleted] »

ajsnigrutin wrote: post #82
echelon wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> As a young girl, Alice (not her real name) logged on to the popular live video chat website, Omegle, and was randomly paired with a paedophile, who coerced her into becoming a digital sex slave. Nearly 10 years later the young American is suing Omegle in a landmark case that could pave the way for a wave of lawsuits against other social platforms. This is fucked. We shouldn't have to put safety padding on everythin…

Yep. If the pedo found her at a walmart, would she sue walmart too? Weird people, pedos, criminals are everywhere.... parents somehow teach about "stranger-danger" offline but not online, and then blame platforms their kids use, even though they are too young to use them in the first place.

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Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Post by lazide »

echelon wrote: post #74
ThrowawayTestr wrote: post #59

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Didn't the ALCU defend Nazis in the past?

And satanists. And homophobic churches. They used to know no point on the political compass and would defend all liberties.

Except anything second amendment (and a few others).

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Post by fl0id »

adamomada wrote: post #98
x0x0 wrote: post #48

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How is age verification easy?

Why isn’t having an “over 18?” checkbox enough to have lawsuits brought by children (at the time or later) thrown out unceremoniously?

Because that’s not really verification, probably.

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

#144

Post by krisoft »

3cats-in-a-coat wrote: post #50
TaylorAlexander wrote: post #35

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Regardless of any arguments about legitimacy, the optics of the EFF and ACLU defending Omegle against a child sex abuse victim are horrible. They need to raise funds from donors and having to explain that they fought against an individual abuse victim seems like the kind of position they would want to avoid. What I imagine they would do is fight against any overzealous legislation some politician tries to throw toget…

Framing this as "what about the children" is an easy way to attack just about anything that's not strictly top-down from some large corporate vendor. On the other hand, I do wonder if "talk to strangers" is indeed a reasonable model. Our brains form largely on the basis of neurons talking and connecting to strangers. Clearly that model works there. But then again the neurons are simple (relatively) cells with much mo…

> Our brains form largely on the basis of neurons talking and connecting to strangers.

This is nonsense. Our neurons don’t talk to strangers. They talk with other neurons from the same individual. There is more in common between any two connected neurons than between two family members.

And besides there is no reason to think that what happens between cells is a good model to base human behaviour on whatsoever.

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Post by Gabf74phcJ2bJpr »

Mechanical9 wrote: post #31
xwdv wrote: post #12

To the founder of Omegle, I would say: do not lose heart. The moral arc of the universe is long, but it bends toward justice. In the end, we will prevail over those who destroy the good works of others under the guise of false victimhood and social justice, and build a very special place in hell for them, where we will condemn them for all eternity.

I don't really see what aspect of this situation involves a false sense of victimhood, unless you are referring to the multimillionaire founder who is unwilling to add age verification to their website.

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Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Post by lazide »

melvinmelih wrote: post #69

> But it became popular almost instantly after launch, and grew organically from there, reaching millions of daily users. The law of big numbers dictate that if there’s even a tiny chance of a catastrophic event it has close to 100% probability of happening if n is just large enough (in the case of millions of daily users, probably multiple catastrophic events per day). This kind of asymmetrical risk is very hard to…

Just because someone got struck by lightning while playing golf, doesn’t make golf dangerous to play.

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Post by paulcole »

cortesoft wrote: post #61
SamPatt wrote: post #18

I don't know the whole story, but this seems very genuine. It echoes a sentiment I imagine many people my age feel, where the magic of the early internet we witnessed during our coming of age feels threatened. I feel for him, and hope he's able to move onto other projects which aren't as stressful.

I find it interesting that the "magical period" seems to be determined by your age. For me, the internet has already lost its magic by the time the mid 2000s came around, well before Omegle came out in 2009. For me, the magical period was the early 90s, when I was growing up. In 15 years, are people going to be talking about the current internet as the time when the magic was there? It seems more about the magic of c…

Yeah it’s like how my dad says SNL peaked when he was 18 and I say it peaked when I was 18.

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Post by blastersyndrome »

So let me get this straight: The site is being shut down because the owner didn't want to deal with the constant spam of CSAM?

Is there a list of websites that have been shut down due to this type of attrition? I'm aware of at least one other site[0] that has met the same fate. It would be interesting to see an exhaustive list.

[0] freeimage.us

Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Post by Gabf74phcJ2bJpr »

aaomidi wrote: post #90
marcus_holmes wrote: post #70

This is so sad. For all the conventional reasons: the victim of the abuse deserves sympathy, and that abuse shouldn't happen. But also because we seem to be placing the blame for the abuse on the service, not the abuser. And that's sad because instead of being able to just make interesting stuff and put them online, we are being forced to consider "what's the worst possible thing that some evil bastard could use this…

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Re: Omegle 2009-2023

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Post by aaomidi »

zht wrote: post #136
noirbot wrote: post #110

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I'll be right back - I need to tell my local pub and parks authority that they didn't think through the basic consequences of their actions when they made a place people could meet random strangers. I'm sure they just haven't thought through what a moral failing offering public spaces are. Edit to respond to OP's Edit: Your quote you're replying to includes "And prevent it". Which made us assume you were directly imp…

Does the local pub allow minors? I’m confused

And beyond that, pubs (or, well, bars) in the US can be held accountable if they let someone get _too drunk_.
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