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Email obfuscation rendered almost ineffective against ChatGPT

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Re: Email obfuscation rendered almost ineffective against ChatGPT

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post #51

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People have noted for many years now that getting your email address scraped isn't a thing. I assume it used to be a thing, and the cost of doing a zero-effort obfuscation is zero, so almost nobody stops.

My address 100% gets scraped via GitHub, at the very least.

Doesn't GitHub have protections against that ? Or does it still work as long as the bot signs up for an account ?

Re: Email obfuscation rendered almost ineffective against ChatGPT

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post #95

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That sounds amazing. Shame it's proprietary, I'd love to read that chat transcript. do you just paste binary data in and ask it to decipher it? or do you ask it leading questions? or...?

Lots of follow-ups, here is the transcript (warning, too much bla bla). i was feeding the file to gpt4 slowly because i was hitting its input limits: https://chat.openai.com/share/23db424d-7307-46da-913f-d45cdc...

Have you tried ChatGPT Code Interpreter aka Advanced Data Analysis mode?

That's the thing that can write and then execute Python code against files you upload to it.

I've had great results using it to decipher weird binary formats, since it can try things out and iterate on them.

Re: Email obfuscation rendered almost ineffective against ChatGPT

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Maybe not ... I used to obfuscate my email using JSFuck [1][2]. I just gave ChatGPT the JSFuck encoding for `document.write("email@email.com")` and it flat out refused to decode it for me, apparently because it worries about getting itself into trouble! > Decoding JSFuck manually would be quite laborious and error-prone, as it would involve understanding and unwinding the many layers of coercion to their original val…

I know we're talking about LLMs deobfuscating stuff here, but it turns out that JSFuck is trivially decodable. https://enkhee-osiris.github.io/Decoder-JSFuck/

Re: Email obfuscation rendered almost ineffective against ChatGPT

#146
If you aren't getting spam-email on your obfuscated email string, it seems more likely email scraping with the intent of sending spam is very risky given the fairly widespread proliferation of spamtraps/honeypots along with actual legislation in some regions. You can quickly ruin your IP and domain reputation and end up on various grey/blacklists doing this stuff. Like I post my (unobfuscated) email address absolutely everywhere and rarely get unsolicited email as a result, because almost nobody in this space is ignorant enough to send unsolicited commercial emails to unknown email addresses found online.

It also seems like this type of obfusction probably never was particularlly effective. Like you can write a write dumb if-else style matcher to de-obfuscate most of these schemes fairly trivially.

Re: Email obfuscation rendered almost ineffective against ChatGPT

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post #90

Email obfuscation has long been pointless, even before ChatGPT. It's unrealistic to think that you can keep spammers from getting your address. Spam filters are the only realistic solution.

Or rely on an email proxy whenever possible.

If I get spam, I know it where it originated and I can just blackhole that address.

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