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YouTube's Ad Blocker Crackdown Spurs Record Uninstalls

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Post by zeroCalories »

fragmede wrote: post #136
zeroCalories wrote: post #72

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a stretch. Even if Google, an entirely metrics driven company, decided to destroy their metrics, there isn't any good alternatives to Youtube. At best you'll be going to TikTok, but most YouTube channels can't be sustained on TikTok's revenue model.

For those ofnus less intimately familiar with the TikTok platform and their payouts and their revenue, can you explain why not? I thought they show (video) ads and use money to run the company and pay creators.

You can find quick comparisons of the payout per/view for TikTok and YouTube. The difference is huge. Of course videos get more views on TikTok, but it's not enough for most. Long form videos are simply more economical. Many channels would need a huge reimagining of their business model to survive a transition.

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Post by bastard_op »

rchaud wrote: post #118
Longlius wrote: post #27

I took off adblocking on Youtube just to see if I could get along with continuing to use Youtube in a frictionless way. The answer is no, because Youtube's current crop of ads is full of outright scams and conspiracy theory stuff. Content that would probably be massively de-emphasized by the youtube algorithm or even outright banned is apparently okay to show as long as you pay Google a few thousand dollars to run it…

Online advertising is insidious because it isn't monitored or regulated to nearly the same extent as TV, radio and print ads. Back in the mid-2000s, Google was rife with ads for: - 'cheap RX meds from Canada', - 'free iPod' (if you sign up w CC for 12 random services) - 'mail order brides from [war torn country]' - 'legal grow at home indica buds' Those are just the ones I remember. I'm sure the modern ads aren't any…

I get much the same - I suspect because I perpetually adblock, cookie block, script block, etc everything they can determine better what I want, for a reason. As a base, I get the most scammy ads one can imagine, which you really do not want to send to an IT professional that knows the game already. It's just so bad, a total race to the bottom...

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Post by clowncity »

boomboomsubban wrote: post #55

My opinion of the for profit ad blockers is so low that I assume this article is sponsored content from at least one of them. I'd guess Adlock refused to pay, as bizarrely they're the only one who don't get their product linked to despite claiming to have solved the problem. I always find it strange to hear so many people still use non uBlock Origin ad blockers. I feel like any discussion I've seen about ad blockers…

Recently Xboxes have been starting up with a huge ads for some dumb game. People are outraged and claiming they'll go game on PC. And what're they gonna run on those PCs? Linux? Unlikely. They'll load windows. And get the same treatment.

There's that George Carlin joke "imagine how stupid the average person is then realize half of all people are stupider than that."

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Post by datpiff »

arnvidr wrote: post #133
datpiff wrote: post #41

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Patreon doesn't seem to do video very well (or at all anymore?) Most Patreon accounts I've seen just link to unlisted Youtube videos.

The account I support that regularly posts videos uses Patreon's own video service still. It seems to work pretty good?

Maybe it's based on what the subscribers prefer?

It also seems like they don't allow all types of accounts to use it: https://support.patreon.com/hc/en-us/articles/6598555214477-...

There are a few other usage restrictions that make it worse than just hosting on Youtube.

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Post by malka »

qntmfred wrote: post #36

I've been a paying YouTube user since 2016 when it was YouTube Red. YouTube is imo one of the best sites on the internet. Both in terms of content that I personally enjoy and improves my life, as well as its role on the internet overall, where they provide a FREE service that allows EVERYONE to upload as much video as they want, and see what kind of response it gets from a global audience, and even to get paid for th…

This does read soooo much like an ad. Uncanny. not telling it is really one though.

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Post by happytoexplain »

brycewray wrote: post #10

Uninstalls? Would’ve thought most people savvy to blocker extensions in the first place would know how to disable them for specific troublesome sites, but... (shrug emoji).

The title is misleading:

> The available data suggests last month saw a record number of adblockers uninstalled—and also a record for new ad blocker installs as people sought alternatives that wouldn’t trigger YouTube’s dreaded popup.

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Post by stronglikedan »

karaterobot wrote: post #77
qntmfred wrote: post #36

I've been a paying YouTube user since 2016 when it was YouTube Red. YouTube is imo one of the best sites on the internet. Both in terms of content that I personally enjoy and improves my life, as well as its role on the internet overall, where they provide a FREE service that allows EVERYONE to upload as much video as they want, and see what kind of response it gets from a global audience, and even to get paid for th…

Do you ever skip past the shout-outs to the sponsor, or do you sit and pay attention to them out of admiration for the creators who spent so much time making free content for you?

It depends on whether it's engaging or relevant to me. I don't begrudge the creators for including sponsored content, but if I do sit through it, it's not out of admiration for them. It's because I want to know more, or am cleaning the kitchen and don't want to reach for the remote.

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Post by thunky »

jszymborski wrote: post #52
qntmfred wrote: post #36

I've been a paying YouTube user since 2016 when it was YouTube Red. YouTube is imo one of the best sites on the internet. Both in terms of content that I personally enjoy and improves my life, as well as its role on the internet overall, where they provide a FREE service that allows EVERYONE to upload as much video as they want, and see what kind of response it gets from a global audience, and even to get paid for th…

See, I like a lot of content creators on YouTube. I also think that Alphabet has such an immensely negative impact on society. Deeply and thoroughly. I just cannot bring myself to give a red cent. Not by viewing ads, and much less by giving them my credit card.

> I also think that Alphabet has such an immensely negative impact on society.

Care to elaborate?

Good news is that none of this matters to you since you avoid Google products.

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Post by malka »

Workaccount2 wrote: post #46
PH95VuimJjqBqy wrote: post #3

I think many content creators have recognized that it's important to expand their brand outside of youtube so they're not so beholden to youtube. I wonder if this is opening cracks for competitors.

No one wants to be a competitor. People are so deluded on this topic that they cannot even think straight. No one wants to watch ads. No one wants to pay a subscription. Those two things are factually true, and why youtube sucks, why it has no competitors, and why the future looks bad for it. Vid.me ran an experiment a few years ago and made a serious push to upend youtube. They had great success and it really took o…

then make it a public service, payed by the UN and its constituent states.

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Post by stronglikedan »

meiraleal wrote: post #81
qntmfred wrote: post #36

I've been a paying YouTube user since 2016 when it was YouTube Red. YouTube is imo one of the best sites on the internet. Both in terms of content that I personally enjoy and improves my life, as well as its role on the internet overall, where they provide a FREE service that allows EVERYONE to upload as much video as they want, and see what kind of response it gets from a global audience, and even to get paid for th…

> where they provide a FREE service that allows EVERYONE to upload as much video as they want If it was a FREE service to EVERYONE, they wouldn't care about adblockers. It is paid, then.

Free, in this context, means ad supported. Context is important.
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