Living in Russia does have its benefits — since YouTube premium isn't available, and no ads are shown to Russian users anyway, I only watch this unfold from afar without experiencing it first-hand.
YouTube's 'War' on Adblockers Shows How Google Controls the Internet
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#142I think sadly there are no good solutions here. YouTube did a very very good job of hosting videos for everyone, and for a long long time didn't care about adblock or ytdl. All that might be fine if relatively few people used it (hence ytdl type tools were cli only and not some flashy GUI). But the usage of adblockers is rising (for all the good reasons, modern web with ads is horrible), so YouTube needs to do this at some point. They can't wait till adblocker usage is >50% since then it would be near impossible. YouTube premium exists, and is very good value. And hosting videos is really expensive, e.g. https://www.theverge.com/2022/3/15/22979126/vimeo-patreon-cr....
Sadly what might happen in the end in the far future is youtube usable only with a login and with some kind of a subscription/one off transfer or ads. Some kind of netflix type solution, which is worse for everyone but hard to complain about.
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#143Earlier quoted context omitted.
Why are you consuming any YT videos, then? Why are so many people feel entitled to YT videos without ads?
> Why are so many people feel entitled to YT videos without ads? I don't feel entitled to them, but I do feel entitled to control what code is run and what content is shown on systems I own. I don't like watching ads, so as long as I can do it without onerous effort on my part, I will block them. Ultimately, if Youtube doesn't want me messing with the bytes they sent me, they shouldn't send them to me at all.
They seem to agree with you on that last part.
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#144It strikes me as so odd that people readily pay for netflix, hulu, HBO etc, but when the idea of paying for youtube comes along, who directly profit shares with small creators you adore, people fall over backwards in disgust. I guess it has to do with initial value proposition. If you hand out lemonade for free, people are going to be pissed when you start charging a dollar, regardless of how good of a deal it is. Ev…
I would question that "readily" statement now that most people can't afford netflix and hulu and hbo and etc. anymore because everyone's priced their plans to the point where a cable subscription is starting to look attractive again. The same goes for youtube: I would gladly pay however much my ad impressions are actually worth to not see them, but I would be VERY surprised if they amounted to more than a Canadian dollar a month, so the idea of paying 150 Canadian dollars a year just doesn't make any sense.
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#145One good thing that has come out of this is that I have reduced my time on YouTube to nearly zero in the past two weeks.
Another good thing is that they're getting even more people to use proper adblocking addons and browsers.
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#146Google could go further. The next step is listening on the microphone to make sure the audio from the ad is coming out. Then using the user's camera to pause an ad if the user isn't looking at it.
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#147Earlier quoted context omitted.
> content of interest could be deleted next second HBO hasn't exactly been great about this either
This is a problem on all of these platforms, but to a completely different degree.
Your favourite creator can post a video on Patreon, that you pay for, and immediately remove it.
Pointing the finger at YouTube like it's a unique problem is...
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#148It strikes me as so odd that people readily pay for netflix, hulu, HBO etc, but when the idea of paying for youtube comes along, who directly profit shares with small creators you adore, people fall over backwards in disgust. I guess it has to do with initial value proposition. If you hand out lemonade for free, people are going to be pissed when you start charging a dollar, regardless of how good of a deal it is. Ev…
Where I live YT Premium costs USD0.5 a month.
Is there median annual income less than $10k as well?
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#149It strikes me as so odd that people readily pay for netflix, hulu, HBO etc, but when the idea of paying for youtube comes along, who directly profit shares with small creators you adore, people fall over backwards in disgust. I guess it has to do with initial value proposition. If you hand out lemonade for free, people are going to be pissed when you start charging a dollar, regardless of how good of a deal it is. Ev…
I feel like you're right about initial value proposition, but it doesn't seem odd to me at all. There are other things about treating youtube as netflix/hbo/hulu: - I can't upload random video to the netflix, and I have a certain expectation regarding content there - 99% of videos on youtube are not something I would pay for or expected to be paid for uploading - I can pay for youtube subscription and would still get…
> I can pay for youtube subscription and would still get a lot of advertisement, because I dared to turn SponsorBlock off.
Then don't turn SponsorBlock off? Is Youtube banning that as well? I don't see why they would care.
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#150It strikes me as so odd that people readily pay for netflix, hulu, HBO etc, but when the idea of paying for youtube comes along, who directly profit shares with small creators you adore, people fall over backwards in disgust. I guess it has to do with initial value proposition. If you hand out lemonade for free, people are going to be pissed when you start charging a dollar, regardless of how good of a deal it is. Ev…
Well, I don’t subscribe to any services like Netflix, et al. I do use YouTube, for watching some videos around my hobbies, like woodworking, but they aren’t important enough to me to pay for. I could easily live without them. The ads have become onerous enough that watching a video is painful now. It became bearable with an ad blocker, but I’m prepared to not use YouTube anymore.