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I think GCP is better than AWS (2020)

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Re: I think GCP is better than AWS (2020)

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Post by slotrans »

craigmcnamara wrote: post #6

I find the GCP documentation to be lacking compared to AWS. Specifically while using GCP with Terraform I hit more frustrating nonsense error messages with little to no google hits or undocumented behavior around IAM config compared to my experience doing similar things on AWS.

Every GCP product is poorly documented.

There are often no examples at all, and when there are they only cover the "hello world" case.

Last I tried, the documented examples for Cloud Functions v2 simply did not work.

Re: I think GCP is better than AWS (2020)

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Post by lowbloodsugar »

I mean, the author makes the arbitrary decision to equate AWS accounts with GCP projects, and then from there determines that this is unsatisfactory. This is not my experience at all, and it wasn't until I joined a Fortune 500 company that I ever came across the idea of separate accounts - and they were split along corporate accounting divisions.

Re: I think GCP is better than AWS (2020)

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Post by Alupis »

zinekeller wrote: post #138
Alupis wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And it's not being shut down, it's being sold off. There's quite a difference.

Google, and all other domain registrars, are obliged by ICANN to allow domain migrations in case that the original registrar is shutting down. Getting money from Squarespace is just icing on the cake.

I don't understand your point?

Google is selling Domains to Squarespace. Yes, many techies will migrate their domains, but majority of the people on Google Domains probably wont. That's why Squarespace thought it was worth paying anything for, after all.

Personally, I'm moving my domains already. But, saying Google Domains was shut down is inaccurate - it was sold, as business units/subsidiaries tend to be...

Re: I think GCP is better than AWS (2020)

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Post by Alupis »

zinekeller wrote: post #140
Alupis wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google Domains is not being shut down - it's being sold to Squarespace. I would assume Cloud Domains either went with that package, or is being removed as part of the deal. Selling to another company != shut down in my book. Although I'm already in the process of moving domains to another registrar...

Google, and all other domain registrars, are obliged by ICANN to allow domain migrations in case that the original registrar is shutting down. Getting money from Squarespace is just icing on the cake. You're sounding that this is a decision that Google is doing voluntarily, but it's literally not an option here (for once). Also if they're still keeping the original Google system then it's believable that they are ind…

What point are you trying to make? Because it has nothing to do with my comment as far as I can tell.

Re: I think GCP is better than AWS (2020)

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Post by slotrans »

esafak wrote: post #5

Does anyone have recent experience with both? I'm in the market, for a startup, and I need to decide. My priorities are the data warehouse (BigQuery vs. Redshift) and ML (Vertex AI vs. SageMaker). This article is three years old. Vertex did not even exist then.

I would choose Redshift over BigQuery but that's because I know how to use it. Actual skill at databases is increasingly rare, so BigQuery wins this one for most. Watch your bill.

Re: I think GCP is better than AWS (2020)

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Post by zinekeller »

Alupis wrote: post #144
zinekeller wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google, and all other domain registrars, are obliged by ICANN to allow domain migrations in case that the original registrar is shutting down. Getting money from Squarespace is just icing on the cake. You're sounding that this is a decision that Google is doing voluntarily, but it's literally not an option here (for once). Also if they're still keeping the original Google system then it's believable that they are ind…

What point are you trying to make? Because it has nothing to do with my comment as far as I can tell.

They are forced to sell it by their contracts with ICANN - this is not a decision that they have done voluntarily. If they can legally shut down Domains they would have done it.

Sure, in any other contexts, selling Stadia customers to Microsoft or Nvidia (for example) would be a voluntary decision, however they are barred from just shutting down this one. They can even shut down Gmail or YouTube with no legal repercussions (sure their reputation will suffer but legally it's in the clear), but Domains is in a different legal standing.

Re: I think GCP is better than AWS (2020)

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Post by jsnell »

imwillofficial wrote: post #81
jsnell wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The argument being stated multiple times doesn't mean it is valid. Amazon, Microsoft and Google have all launched roughly as many products in the last couple of decades, and killed roughly as many of them unceremoniously after the products failed. (Amazon execs used to outright brag to the media about how many products they killed, since it showed that they were daring to take risks.) AWS, Azure and GCP have also all…

This isn’t my experience. Amazon supports most stuff roughly forever.

Sure, sure. I totally get where you're coming from.

By the way, how's the Fire Phone holding up for you these days? I assume it's still working well and powerful enough to do your web searches on a9.com, and read sites like the Amapedia and DPReviews. Do you happen to know how many of the Alexa.com top500 sites it can browse, or do you need to ask on Amazon Askville? But I know it won't be able to play Amazon's hit game Crucible, that's a PC game!

If you need to play some tunes on your Amazon Tap speaker and don't have them on the phone, all your mp3s are right there on Amazon Music Storage, just where you left them with the Amazon Music Importer to be played with the Amazon Cloud Player. And the files are safely backed up on Amazon Drive just in case! It's the same thing with all the digital movies you bought on Amazon Unbox, they'll just be waiting in the cloud for you to download them. (Watching DVDs rented from LoveFilm is just so yesterday.) [0]

And let's not forget Amazon's initial core competency of retail!

Just use your Dash Button to order some more books from Book Depository, it'd be a bother to have to go to one of the physical Amazon Books stores. It's just crazy how much stuff you can buy online these days! Shoes from endless.com, food delivered straight to your doorstep by Amazon Restaurants, concert tickets from Amazon Tickets, flash fashion from MyHabit.com, hotel bookings from Amazon Destinations, and all kinds of daily necessities for the family from places like diapers.com and soap.com. And don't worry, if you're bored of these normal online stores (like those set up with Amazon Webstore) and want a different experience, there's always Amazon Spark or Amazon Light for fresh takes on shopping! And for the really rare stuff, there's a good chance that there's some listings on Amazon Auction. Really, the only time I have to deal with local businesses is when I get one of those amazing group deals from Amazon Local (the code for that can surely be stored in Amazon Wallet).

I wonder what the right way to pay in one of those local stores is though... Will they take Amazon WebPay, or will I need to have my credit card scanned by one of those Amazon Local Register payment terminals?

But let's not think that it's all about consumption. I'm actually working on a screenplay myself, using Amazon Storywriter! Once I get it printed using BookSurge, it'll look professional af.

Re: I think GCP is better than AWS (2020)

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Post by zinekeller »

Alupis wrote: post #143
zinekeller wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google, and all other domain registrars, are obliged by ICANN to allow domain migrations in case that the original registrar is shutting down. Getting money from Squarespace is just icing on the cake.

I don't understand your point? Google is selling Domains to Squarespace. Yes, many techies will migrate their domains, but majority of the people on Google Domains probably wont. That's why Squarespace thought it was worth paying anything for, after all. Personally, I'm moving my domains already. But, saying Google Domains was shut down is inaccurate - it was sold, as business units/subsidiaries tend to be...

They are forced to sell it by their contracts with ICANN - this is not a decision that they have done voluntarily. If they can legally shut down Domains they would have done it.

Sure, in any other contexts, selling Stadia customers to Microsoft or Nvidia (for example) would be a voluntary decision, however they are barred from just shutting down this one. They can even shut down Gmail or YouTube with no legal repercussions (sure their reputation will suffer but legally it's in the clear), but Domains is in a different legal standing.

Re: I think GCP is better than AWS (2020)

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Post by Alupis »

zinekeller wrote: post #146
Alupis wrote: post #144

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What point are you trying to make? Because it has nothing to do with my comment as far as I can tell.

They are forced to sell it by their contracts with ICANN - this is not a decision that they have done voluntarily. If they can legally shut down Domains they would have done it. Sure, in any other contexts, selling Stadia customers to Microsoft or Nvidia (for example) would be a voluntary decision, however they are barred from just shutting down this one. They can even shut down Gmail or YouTube with no legal repercu…

They sold it for a reported $180 Million[1]

While chump change to the likes of Google, it demonstrates Squarespace views this business as highly profitable. Migrating an acquired business into your systems makes a lot of sense.

Unless you have some evidence it would have been just simply shut down otherwise, I think you're inferring things that do not exist. Few if any of the other "shut down by google" operations could have sold for anywhere near this amount, as they almost universally lost money and/or were niche.

[1] https://www.theregister.com/2023/06/18/google_domains_shutti....

Re: I think GCP is better than AWS (2020)

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Post by Alupis »

zinekeller wrote: post #148
Alupis wrote: post #143

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't understand your point? Google is selling Domains to Squarespace. Yes, many techies will migrate their domains, but majority of the people on Google Domains probably wont. That's why Squarespace thought it was worth paying anything for, after all. Personally, I'm moving my domains already. But, saying Google Domains was shut down is inaccurate - it was sold, as business units/subsidiaries tend to be...

They are forced to sell it by their contracts with ICANN - this is not a decision that they have done voluntarily. If they can legally shut down Domains they would have done it. Sure, in any other contexts, selling Stadia customers to Microsoft or Nvidia (for example) would be a voluntary decision, however they are barred from just shutting down this one. They can even shut down Gmail or YouTube with no legal repercu…

Present evidence it was forced vs. shut-down or stop spreading a made up rumor.
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