Before switching to Fastmail, I started seeing ads on Outlook for windows, Mac, and OWA since a while back ago as a paying customer, then there’s them on gmail, while paying for google one.
I mean they don’t even care if you are paying.
Windows 11's default mail client will show ads starting 2024
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#142Earlier quoted context omitted.
Note to self: the market for 3rd party windows mail clients is going to grow next year.
I have the idea that most people use browser-based email clients anyway?
> I have the idea that most people use browser-based email clients anyway?
Indeed, but it's not an option if you have more than one email account on the same service.
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#143Seems like a lot of companies are aiming for the trifecta of: subscription payments + increasingly worse product + show ads
You’re paying, AND you’re the product. Great days to come!
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#144Windows just keeps getting worse. 7 was pretty good, 10 is ok, 11 is trash. Maybe 2024 will be the year of Linux on my desktop.
7 was great, 8 was trash, 10 was great, now 11 is trash.
Maybe they’ll see the light with Windows 12
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#145I've already opt-in to the new app and it's already showing the ads. It's one small text ad, formatted to look like an email message card. I quickly learned to ignore it. And no one is forcing anyone to use this app. You can use webmail, Thunderbird, etc... I still prefer this app with the ad to opening gmail in the browser.
It would be better without an add. Free Outlook will become the default mail app pre installed with Windows, a commercial product that costs actual money. It is just shouldn't have ads. Just like Apple's Mail app doesn't have ads.
Having ad free software should be the norm.
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#146There's Thunderbird, much better solution than mail or outlook.
Recently I've had delivery issues with Thunderbird. That makes me rethink my use of it.
I sent the same email from the same address to the same recipient once with Thunderbird on Windows, once with Apple Mail on iOS. The one with Thunderbird was silently dropped (not even reaching the spam folder), the one sent with Apple Mail reached the inbox without issue. I've had that same issue with 2 different recipient companies.
And yes, my address passes SPF, DKIM, has a strict DMARC, and isn't in any blacklist (uses iCloud+ as host).
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#147I've used Windows 11 and the new Outlook for a while now, but I've never seen a single ad. Not one. Is it because I have Office 365?
If that's the case, Microsoft's strategy is that one way or another it wants some money from you: either the subscription, or the ad revenue. I'd be concerned if I had to see ads while being a paying customer.
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#148Why do so many Windows users tolerate shit like this while refusing to consider a much better designed platform that is far more respectful of its users like macOS?
I use Windows as my personal OS (1-2 hours a day) and macOS as my work OS (8 hours a day, M2 Mac). I would never have macOS as my personal OS because exactly it has a poorly designed UI for my use cases. I need to spend a higher cognitive load with the UI and my day-to-day activities require more clicks or UI interaction time. Additionally, I have less screen real estate and some applications simply won't work on a Mac. I like the hardware, though, just not enough.
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#149Earlier quoted context omitted.
I have the idea that most people use browser-based email clients anyway?
> I have the idea that most people use browser-based email clients anyway? Indeed, but it's not an option if you have more than one email account on the same service.
firefox containers can help there
Re: Windows 11's default mail client will show ads starting 2024
#150Seems like a lot of companies are aiming for the trifecta of: subscription payments + increasingly worse product + show ads
It's in the spirit of preloaded crapware, Yahoo, and AOL.
It's coming full circle with NetZero and Juno from 25 years ago! "Hey we'll give you this free thing (then: internet/now: mail, OS, apps) in exchange for ads!