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California suspends Cruise's autonomous vehicle deployment

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Re: California suspends Cruise's autonomous vehicle deployment

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43k deaths per year due to human drivers. DMV should stop sticking their heads in the sand. https://www.iihs.org/topics/fatality-statistics/detail/state... .

Though maybe good to have a system where a human remote driver takes over in cases where it's confused?

its not really helpful for split second judgement calls like this. If your pizzabot is stuck behind another pizzabot or can't figure out something, ok. But this happens before anyone can intervene. The switchover + time to comprehend and react remotely aren't going to change anything.

Re: California suspends Cruise's autonomous vehicle deployment

#142
I know that the geography of North America and the timing of industrialization basically made this a pipe dream…

Yet, trying to create near-peer artificial human driving intelligence—just so cities can continue to be designed around horseless carriages, minivans, and truck nuts—well, that may not have been the best solution to the problem.

Ideally, autonomous driving would be for “the edge” of a transportation network. Like a house on a dirt road, or a camping site, or the home of a misguided friend who moved to south Gilbert, AZ ;)

You shouldn’t need to be watching for basketballs and red lights on interstate highways. Everyone is going the same direction for long distances between transfers. Cars are often individualism, which I’m certainly not against.

The arrogance of “driving driverless should be easy” probably comes from a lot of people seeing driving as a part of their basic humanity. The car is nearly a cyborg extension of their mobility and physical power.

Me? I just wanna get to the concert. Take the humans out of the equation where it makes sense. I’d rather go with light rail; not my friend who offered to drive, then road rages over a merge, then follows some minivan psychopathically for a few minutes (true stories).

We shot ourselves in the foot because mass transportation in America has failed to impress us as much as a Jaguar XK or Jeep KJ, or whatever your Soul Car is.

Re: California suspends Cruise's autonomous vehicle deployment

#143

43k deaths per year due to human drivers. DMV should stop sticking their heads in the sand. https://www.iihs.org/topics/fatality-statistics/detail/state... .

Though maybe good to have a system where a human remote driver takes over in cases where it's confused?

Some of the players in this space do this but it doesn't work because driving via streaming video over the internet is nowhere near as effective as a human driver. And is simply not possible in a fast moving emergency, only being helpful if the car gets stuck and won't move

Re: California suspends Cruise's autonomous vehicle deployment

#145

The incident last month where that woman got dragged and pinned by the Cruise vehicle was pretty disconcerting. The initial collision wasn't the fault of the cruise vehicle (another vehicle hit her pushing her into the cruise vehicle and fled the scene), but the cruise vehicle then proceeded to try to "pull over" and just dragged this woman and rolled over her leg. Weird situation but definitely something made much m…

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Re: California suspends Cruise's autonomous vehicle deployment

#146
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The point is being able to read a book during your commute without getting assaulted or robbed.

Can't you do that in most countries with public transit?

Not if you want to go along with the trend of portraying cities as more dangerous than they really are.

Re: California suspends Cruise's autonomous vehicle deployment

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Is there evidence that Cruise is more dangerous than a human driver?

A human driver at what percentile? I think AVs need to be better than p95 or so to be socially accepted.

Why? Do you think good drivers will be more willing to switch to AVs than bad drivers will?

Re: California suspends Cruise's autonomous vehicle deployment

#148

43k deaths per year due to human drivers. DMV should stop sticking their heads in the sand. https://www.iihs.org/topics/fatality-statistics/detail/state... .

Though maybe good to have a system where a human remote driver takes over in cases where it's confused?

The concept of "human remote driver" isn't feasible. Imagine driving a car using a cell phone network Zoom call. It's less safe than just stopping.

Re: California suspends Cruise's autonomous vehicle deployment

#149

The incident last month where that woman got dragged and pinned by the Cruise vehicle was pretty disconcerting. The initial collision wasn't the fault of the cruise vehicle (another vehicle hit her pushing her into the cruise vehicle and fled the scene), but the cruise vehicle then proceeded to try to "pull over" and just dragged this woman and rolled over her leg. Weird situation but definitely something made much m…

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... Stopped?

Re: California suspends Cruise's autonomous vehicle deployment

#150

The incident last month where that woman got dragged and pinned by the Cruise vehicle was pretty disconcerting. The initial collision wasn't the fault of the cruise vehicle (another vehicle hit her pushing her into the cruise vehicle and fled the scene), but the cruise vehicle then proceeded to try to "pull over" and just dragged this woman and rolled over her leg. Weird situation but definitely something made much m…

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Stopped the vehicle, instead of continuing to drag them?
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