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Re: Insomnia REST client now requires an account

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Post by isbvhodnvemrwvn »

helloanoop wrote: post #140
mch82 wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Have you considered affiliating your project with the Linux Foundation or a similar organization?

Not yet. It's at a very early stage.

And yet it pretty much has 80% of the value that Postman provided to me.

There is some missing polish (like missing utilities in scripts or buggy drag-and-drop) and a couple bigger things like no authorization schemes or code export, but the killer thing it has over pretty much all the competition is the JS glue code AND first-class VCS support. Even insomnia had garbage-tier glue code support, something that was very much missing coming from Postman.

Great work!

Re: Insomnia REST client now requires an account

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Post by isbvhodnvemrwvn »

SergeAx wrote: post #137
helloanoop wrote: post #54

Try Bruno - https://github.com/usebruno/bruno - Free and Opensource IDE for exploring and testing APIs - It is lightweight with MIT license - Bruno stores your collections directly in a folder on your filesystem - Use git for collaboration - No cloud sync. Fully offline. PS: I am the creator of this project

Great product, thank you so much! I am curious: why the request to support OpenAPI turned up only 2 weeks ago? In my bubble it is an ubiquitos format where everything starts and from where any additional data added up.

It's actually been up for almost a year, but many issues are not de-duplicated: https://github.com/usebruno/bruno/issues/81

Re: Insomnia REST client now requires an account

#143

Post by helloanoop »

isbvhodnvemrwvn wrote: post #141
helloanoop wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not yet. It's at a very early stage.

And yet it pretty much has 80% of the value that Postman provided to me. There is some missing polish (like missing utilities in scripts or buggy drag-and-drop) and a couple bigger things like no authorization schemes or code export, but the killer thing it has over pretty much all the competition is the JS glue code AND first-class VCS support. Even insomnia had garbage-tier glue code support, something that was ver…

Yup, the JS glue code is something that I am very proud of. You can install any npm package via package.json. Require them inside your scripts and it just works.

In every other tool, they treat a collection like something that can be modified only via GUI. In Bruno, its more of a developer mindset. Even if you don't have Bruno GUI, you can open it in an editor and make changes to it - just like code

External npm package installation is unique to Bruno and afaik no other tool has this.

Yes Auth is a big task that I am working on. Glad to see that some folks use scripts and directly implement oauth2 https://github.com/usebruno/bruno/issues/178

Many users are surprised when they find this capabilty, It opens up a lot of possibilities - https://github.com/usebruno/bruno/issues/233#issuecomment-17...

Re: Insomnia REST client now requires an account

#144

Post by helloanoop »

bafe wrote: post #119
helloanoop wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

yup! every postman alternative just follows postman playbook starts as offline vc funding enables cloud sync for collaboration with teams deprecates offline as scratchpad deletes scratchpad Its been like this for a decade now. With Bruno the key insight was to store collections and requests as folders and files, and design a markup language that makes it easy to collaborate with your team. I wrote about this here: ht…

My only doubt is whether you need to design a special "language" to store the queries/configurations. Wouldn't it be easier to leverage existing languages, maybe something like dhall?

Yes, The language itself went through many iterations. You can look at these 3 iterations here: https://ibb.co/8j8yM1f

First was break a giant collection json and save it as individual files, second attempt was to convert into a dsl (was a bit like xml), the third attempt that is used today to make it even simpler.

The key driving force behind the language design was to make sure that it was simple and readable enough to be able to do a PR review flow in git.

Also, simple enough so that you can open the collection folder in a editor (like vscode) and still be able to make changes

Json didn't support multiline strings. Yaml was indentation hell. I wanted something neat, no need for quotes around strings. And lot of nuances, like how do you store a query param as disabled.

you can read more about the lang design at: https://docs.usebruno.com/bru-language-design.html

Re: Insomnia REST client now requires an account

#145

Post by helloanoop »

SergeAx wrote: post #136
_thinx wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How do you avoid that at Bruno v1.0.0 ? I means Postman playbook > vc funding

MIT license. If the product is success and has significant devs following - they will just fork it from the commit before relicensing.

Yes MIT license is a great plan b. But forking is hard and painful. Elastic/MongoDB/HashiCorp and many more OSS keep moving towards Business Source License to protect themselves from bigtech monetizing the original creators hard work.

What we need is a better approach. One that doesn't involve VC funding. One that keeps the all the incentives of the community, contributors and the creators aligned.

Will share a draft of this approach soon (likely tomorrow) and open it up for community discussion. I want Bruno to be there for the long term.

Re: Insomnia REST client now requires an account

#146

Post by isbvhodnvemrwvn »

pseudalopex wrote: post #97
helloanoop wrote: post #54

Try Bruno - https://github.com/usebruno/bruno - Free and Opensource IDE for exploring and testing APIs - It is lightweight with MIT license - Bruno stores your collections directly in a folder on your filesystem - Use git for collaboration - No cloud sync. Fully offline. PS: I am the creator of this project

> Fully offline. There is telemetry. And I didn't find opt in or even opt out code. > lightweight Could you quantify? I never saw a lightweight Electron app.

I tracked this through the code.

Telemetry is set up here: https://github.com/usebruno/bruno/blob/main/packages/bruno-a...

It uses next.js config which is here: https://github.com/usebruno/bruno/blob/main/packages/bruno-a...

I don't know when this is evaluated, but it seems like if you set ENV=dev it should disable it.

Re: Insomnia REST client now requires an account

#147

Post by skrowl »

helloanoop wrote: post #54

Try Bruno - https://github.com/usebruno/bruno - Free and Opensource IDE for exploring and testing APIs - It is lightweight with MIT license - Bruno stores your collections directly in a folder on your filesystem - Use git for collaboration - No cloud sync. Fully offline. PS: I am the creator of this project

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Re: Insomnia REST client now requires an account

#148

Post by helloanoop »

_thinx wrote: post #132
helloanoop wrote: post #117

Earlier quoted context omitted.

yup! every postman alternative just follows postman playbook starts as offline vc funding enables cloud sync for collaboration with teams deprecates offline as scratchpad deletes scratchpad Its been like this for a decade now. With Bruno the key insight was to store collections and requests as folders and files, and design a markup language that makes it easy to collaborate with your team. I wrote about this here: ht…

How do you avoid that at Bruno v1.0.0 ? I means Postman playbook > vc funding

Here is how we avoid that in v1.0.0

I have penned down some thoughts: https://github.com/usebruno/bruno/discussions/269

Would love you to hear your thoughts and perspectives.

Re: Insomnia REST client now requires an account

#149

Post by kurare »

helloanoop wrote: post #54

Try Bruno - https://github.com/usebruno/bruno - Free and Opensource IDE for exploring and testing APIs - It is lightweight with MIT license - Bruno stores your collections directly in a folder on your filesystem - Use git for collaboration - No cloud sync. Fully offline. PS: I am the creator of this project

I installed its just what I need! I used insomnia for quite a while because postman has become completely unusable bloated piece of crap and now it seems insomnia will do the same.

Re: Insomnia REST client now requires an account

#150

Post by helloanoop »

isbvhodnvemrwvn wrote: post #141
helloanoop wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Not yet. It's at a very early stage.

And yet it pretty much has 80% of the value that Postman provided to me. There is some missing polish (like missing utilities in scripts or buggy drag-and-drop) and a couple bigger things like no authorization schemes or code export, but the killer thing it has over pretty much all the competition is the JS glue code AND first-class VCS support. Even insomnia had garbage-tier glue code support, something that was ver…

Buggy drag and drop is fixed now in v0.16.6
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