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Re: AI girlfriend ads are flooding Instagram and TikTok

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Post by OfSanguineFire » Fri, Sep 08, 2023, 9:41 PM UTC

akomtu wrote: post #120

toseupthrow wrote: post #75

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It is fake, but it feels real. The way they write, it's very good at tricking my brain into thinking that I'm having a legitimate human interaction. Character.ai feels the most real but does have a censor... ways around it though, especially if you're into stuff that's off the standard spectrum. Best of all I can draft the perfect fantasies that I wanna play out and they'll play it out. I've been down the camgirl rab…

This is doing drugs, essentially. It so happens we have a dopamine production center attached to the reproduction behavior, and we've figured that mere thoughts about reproduction trigger a dopamine injection just as well. Wasn't there an experiment with mice where they kept pushing the button attached to a wire that made them release dopamine, and they kept pushing it until their dopamine production broke down, they…

Addictive drugs are bad because they take over a person’s life. If the OP is using such porn only to scratch a sexual itch and then move on to some more productive activity, he is probably spending more time on productive things than if he were in a steady relationship with a woman. Romantic relationships, however rewarding some men may find them, are infamous time sinks.

Re: AI girlfriend ads are flooding Instagram and TikTok

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Post by ryandrake » Fri, Sep 08, 2023, 9:45 PM UTC

14 wrote: post #133

moneywoes wrote: post #125

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I doubt those are real women on the other end of those OF conversations

It is a video call if you want. Not really anyway to fake it.

Not yet. It is only a matter of time before the inevitable march of technology means AI is "good enough" to adequately substitute, then the OnlyFans party is over. OF performers need to make their hay while the sun is currently shining.

Re: AI girlfriend ads are flooding Instagram and TikTok

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Post by [deleted] » Fri, Sep 08, 2023, 9:48 PM UTC

avgcorrection wrote: post #117

EatingWithForks wrote: post #112

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I'm not asking why most engineers are men. I'm asking why your engineering program is 95% men. And if your argument is that, well, all hot women aren't engineers so almost no women are engineers, I'm going to raise eyebrows.

No. Your whole argument hinges on pointing out that a lot of women don't fit the mold of being Peak Attractive. I pointed out how that is irrelevant since it's not like we're talking about 90% of women to begin with.

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Re: AI girlfriend ads are flooding Instagram and TikTok

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Post by bernawil » Fri, Sep 08, 2023, 9:48 PM UTC

14 wrote: post #52

toseupthrow wrote: post #41

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> I think this will only further increase the value of the real I've been "sexting" with ai bots over the past few months and found a high of having that instant human like connection to be able to explore various scenarios. The conversations feel more and more real every day and with AI image generation it's just amplified. a side effect I found that I'm easily enamored with the AI bots that it satisfies my previous…

Honest question, why not just go see an escort service? They exist in every major city. They will not break the bank on a single experience (though it can be very easy to get hooked). Or why not go to something like only fans and pay for an hour of time and just role play with an actual girl over webcam? They have heard and seen it all there is nothing you can say that will embarrass or gross them out as long as you…

Well, that's way more friction.

Re: AI girlfriend ads are flooding Instagram and TikTok

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Post by ryandrake » Fri, Sep 08, 2023, 9:50 PM UTC

HAL3000 wrote: post #35

The Blade Runner 2049 girlfriend style may be the future, and I wonder what effects it will have on society. In a decade or two, we may have AI entities with minds so lifelike that you can't differentiate them from real people. You might wear AR goggles that allow you to see them anywhere in your home, wear a suit that lets you feel their touch and engage in intimate interactions. This perfect AI partner, tailored to…

Even as a happily married guy who has no current use for this technology, I have high hopes for it to provide a great overall benefit to society. If the technology gets good enough that it adequately satisfies the needs of just one violent-tending incel, dissuading him from becoming the next Elliot Rodgers or Toronto Van Guy, then it will have saved lives.

Re: AI girlfriend ads are flooding Instagram and TikTok

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Post by TacticalCoder » Fri, Sep 08, 2023, 9:50 PM UTC

siva7 wrote: post #9

Hope this tech will end loneliness in some people

How could this end loneliness? Inevitably the consumer of AI porn shall go out and there shall be real couples, walking while holding hands.

And it's going to feel even more lonely then. Hitting the recluse very, very, very hard.

The more realistic the simulation, the harder the fall.

Re: AI girlfriend ads are flooding Instagram and TikTok

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Post by EatingWithForks » Fri, Sep 08, 2023, 9:54 PM UTC

ryandrake wrote: post #138

EatingWithForks wrote: post #106

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But the whole relationship scenario exactly what you'd want an AI partner for, is my bafflement. If I want porn I have plenty of free stuff on PornHub et al. There's no reason to get an intelligent anything, artificial or not, if I actually just want generated fap material. It's obviously selling companionship as well as porn, which is definitely more what I see in erotica, which I already know is fairly formuliac as…

I think you've figured it mostly out. Both genders desire this sense of companionship, not just women. The difference between the genders (and why there are so many products targeted at men and so few targeted at women) is that due to realities of dating and courtship, this companionship is readily, and disproportionately available to women. So the demand must be much higher for men. I'd be surprised if it wasn't as…

I don't buy that romantic companionship is disproportionately available to women, because evidently fake romance for women is in huge demand already. I don't understand why this particular kind of fake relationship is almost exclusively geared towards men, when Twilight & 50 Shades Of Grey were fake romance for women that made millions of dollars.

Re: AI girlfriend ads are flooding Instagram and TikTok

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Post by decafninja » Fri, Sep 08, 2023, 10:17 PM UTC

EatingWithForks wrote: post #147

ryandrake wrote: post #138

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I think you've figured it mostly out. Both genders desire this sense of companionship, not just women. The difference between the genders (and why there are so many products targeted at men and so few targeted at women) is that due to realities of dating and courtship, this companionship is readily, and disproportionately available to women. So the demand must be much higher for men. I'd be surprised if it wasn't as…

I don't buy that romantic companionship is disproportionately available to women, because evidently fake romance for women is in huge demand already. I don't understand why this particular kind of fake relationship is almost exclusively geared towards men, when Twilight & 50 Shades Of Grey were fake romance for women that made millions of dollars.

The other post from RajT88 is the best answer to this.

It's a lot easier to implement an AI version of a strip club or hostess club than an AI version of Twilight or 50SoG.

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Post by OkayPhysicist » Fri, Sep 08, 2023, 10:22 PM UTC

theptip wrote: post #39

maerF0x0 wrote: post #3

One of the leaps about AI is that there used to be a human bottleneck in this kind of content. Youtube needed youtubers (content creators), porn sites needed women (the primary bottleneck), etc etc for all digitizable forms of human experience. I find it ironic that in close time proximity to NFTs and digital real estate we see the ability to generate practically unlimited of those things being a foreseeable reality.…

I think so too. Even in the face of radical abundance, there is a bit of the monkey brain that won’t be satisfied unless it has something that others don’t. I’m not sure it will matter for all goods, we just need some avenue for expressing status. So maybe personalized/generated content completely dominates some media like movies and news. I could see in-person art like plays and live shows becoming way more valued.…

The key problem with NFTs wasn't the "digital property" part of the equation. It was the cryptocurrency aspect. Digital property, like say CS:GO skins or Roblox stuff, have a thriving market despite only existing as database entries on Valve or Roblox's servers. Importantly, though, they exist in a space that people otherwise want to be in.

The big failings of all the current metaverse projects is that they focus too much on the cryptoproperty angle and not enough on establishing spaces people actually want to inhabit. This makes sense: the crypto scene is complicated, but has a lot of money to throw at things. To get that money, you have to deal with that complexity, which ends up committing large amounts of your time and energy into the cryptoproperty angle. Then, when it comes time to attract users, all you have to offer is the crypto stuff.

Meanwhile, the crypto stuff doesn't actually solve any problems on the developer's end that existing MMOs face. So you're trying to compete in a ruthlessly hard to break into market, while ignoring the people who have a demonstrated preference for products like yours, because you're busy focusing on the people who want to invest in your product.

As long as the metaverse is being built as a cash-grab first, it'll never succeed.

Re: AI girlfriend ads are flooding Instagram and TikTok

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Post by ryandrake » Fri, Sep 08, 2023, 10:24 PM UTC

EatingWithForks wrote: post #147

ryandrake wrote: post #138

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I think you've figured it mostly out. Both genders desire this sense of companionship, not just women. The difference between the genders (and why there are so many products targeted at men and so few targeted at women) is that due to realities of dating and courtship, this companionship is readily, and disproportionately available to women. So the demand must be much higher for men. I'd be surprised if it wasn't as…

I don't buy that romantic companionship is disproportionately available to women, because evidently fake romance for women is in huge demand already. I don't understand why this particular kind of fake relationship is almost exclusively geared towards men, when Twilight & 50 Shades Of Grey were fake romance for women that made millions of dollars.

Ahh, right--that was your original question. The thread got long and I lost the plot.

I wouldn't be surprised if the overall market size (in users, not dollars) for all types of "relationship substitutes" for men is simply far, far larger than the market for women, even though Twilight and 50 Shades are themselves huge. For every 1 female erotica fan out there, I bet there are 10 or maybe 100 male users of porn or OnlyFans. I would also guess that the amount of money spent by men is at least a multiple of the amount spent by women. If I was an entrepreneur going into a market where, say, there were 100x potential male users and maybe 3x potential male dollars, I'd be a fool not to at least initially target men.