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Farewell EC2-Classic, it’s been swell

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Re: Farewell EC2-Classic, it’s been swell

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Post by nostrademons »

lolinder wrote: post #83
voytec wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I see Reader as Google's attack on RSS' popularity. The product was killed off when its job was accomplished.

Apparently what actually happened is Reader was put together by a team that really cared about it, but always had to fight the corporation to keep it alive. They finally lost the political game to Google Plus, which stole a lot of their key people before it imploded: https://www.theverge.com/23778253/google-reader-death-2013-r... The article above is actually very interesting, because the story it tells is that Googl…

Three greatest failures. Google+ started the trend of having Google product strategy set by executives who were accountable to the CEO/CFO rather than users/customers, vs. the previous bottom-up culture of engineers who passionately wanted to serve the user. That culture change is the root of the issues we're talking about in this thread.

Re: Farewell EC2-Classic, it’s been swell

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Post by jdgoesmarching »

jvolkman wrote: post #107
brianshaler wrote: post #25

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For me it's when they stopped showing results that include your keywords and instead a random smattering of anything broadly related to the topic being searched for.

You can use quotes around keywords. https://blog.google/products/search/how-were-improving-searc...

I’ve had google searches disregard my quoted query.

Re: Farewell EC2-Classic, it’s been swell

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Post by arianvanp »

saurik wrote: post #115

EC2-Classic was magical. It felt like we were finally living in the future: a world where software was in charge of networking, and all of the legacy cruft that came from having to build networks out of cable could be forgotten. Rather than care about legacy IP "subnets", the cloud cared about "security groups", which were missing only a couple features (such as "hierarchy") to entirely replace the role of a subnet i…

They recently launched VPC Lattice.

Which is basically "EC2 Classic networking" but now you pay for it

https://aws.amazon.com/vpc/lattice/

Though it goes a bit further than just security groups on a flat network. Each HTTP endpoint automatically becomes an IAM resource and you can treat all our services as if they're native to AWS and use the same IAM policies. It's pretty dope!

Re: Farewell EC2-Classic, it’s been swell

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Post by otabdeveloper4 »

brianshaler wrote: post #25
Galanwe wrote: post #18

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It's not really the ads that killed Google search for me. it's more the over agressive minmaxed SEO that makes most of results garbage.

For me it's when they stopped showing results that include your keywords and instead a random smattering of anything broadly related to the topic being searched for.

Often it's not even related at all.

For example, Google often prioritizes obscure music bands or albums even for generic or well-known terms.

Re: Farewell EC2-Classic, it’s been swell

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Post by wombat-man »

mike_hearn wrote: post #139
wombat-man wrote: post #133

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I don't think they ever put ads on it, really wonder what the decision process on that was.

Many blogs have ads on them. So you'd be stripping ads and replacing them with your own - not cool.

Well, sure, but they could just not show ads for blogs that didn't use google ads.

The ones that do... Well, why not show ads for them as originally intended?

Re: Farewell EC2-Classic, it’s been swell

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Post by panarky »

rgoulter wrote: post #113
resolutebat wrote: post #27

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Google Cloud officially deprecated its EC2 Classic equivalent, legacy networks, years ago but they're still running just fine: https://cloud.google.com/vpc/docs/legacy

https://goomics.net/50/

I'm experiencing a bizarre sense of unreality reading comments on a story about Amazon killing EC2-Classic, where the first line is "Retiring services isn’t something we do", while having just read yet another email from Amazon warning me about all my files stored in the defunct Amazon Drive, and somehow 90% of the discussion is about a completely different company discontinuing products.

Re: Farewell EC2-Classic, it’s been swell

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Post by moomin »

sneak wrote: post #9
flir wrote: post #8

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Google Reader. Never forget.

I miss Google Search being good and useful and not covered in intrusive ads much more than I miss something easily replaced with local software or Feedly. Almost everything Google does outside of GCP, Maps, Search, and YouTube could evaporate for all I care. Google's problem is not that they cancel stuff, it's the everpresent need to grow revenue and embed annoying ads into more and more of everyone's daily lives. I'…

But Reader _wasn't_ easily replaced by local software. They centralised social usage of RSS, then killed it. Yes, you can still run an RSS reader, but RSS and blogs as a a model of social networking? Never came back.

Re: Farewell EC2-Classic, it’s been swell

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Post by moomin »

chrisweekly wrote: post #68
HeckFeck wrote: post #65

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It's obvious LLM tripe when you click into the article and it begins with several worthless paragraphs describing why someone would be interested in the topic and how things can sometimes go wrong... Yes, I already knew that. That's why I'm here. It might be an attempt to copy customer service 'empathy' but it has the opposite effect: angering me because my time is wasted with this crap, and I have to scroll several…

Tangent: your use of the word "tripe" here is spot-on. The secondary definition (nonsense) works, but I'm talking about the apt metaphor of its primary definition: offal that's technically edible but comes from low-quality parts of the digestive system which are literally filled with feces. LLM-generated SEO spam should always be called "tripe".

Honestly, a lot of this isn't LLM stuff. It's "people being paid pittance".

Re: Farewell EC2-Classic, it’s been swell

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Post by macintux »

kibwen wrote: post #127
sneak wrote: post #9

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I miss Google Search being good and useful and not covered in intrusive ads much more than I miss something easily replaced with local software or Feedly. Almost everything Google does outside of GCP, Maps, Search, and YouTube could evaporate for all I care. Google's problem is not that they cancel stuff, it's the everpresent need to grow revenue and embed annoying ads into more and more of everyone's daily lives. I'…

> everything Google does outside of GCP, Maps, Search, and YouTube could evaporate for all I care Honestly, even YouTube could evaporate and it really wouldn't make a difference. 99.9999% of YouTube is just mindless entertainment, which is 100% fungible with every other form of entertainment. The amount of actually unique, insightful, worthwhile content on YouTube is a rounding error, and will find other places to li…

If the useful YouTube content scattered to multiple alternatives, it would immediately become far less useful. Discovery is a big part of YouTube’s value proposition for me.

Re: Farewell EC2-Classic, it’s been swell

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Post by twothamendment »

panarky wrote: post #146
rgoulter wrote: post #113

Earlier quoted context omitted.

https://goomics.net/50/

I'm experiencing a bizarre sense of unreality reading comments on a story about Amazon killing EC2-Classic, where the first line is "Retiring services isn’t something we do", while having just read yet another email from Amazon warning me about all my files stored in the defunct Amazon Drive, and somehow 90% of the discussion is about a completely different company discontinuing products.

We had some classic ec-2. They gave plenty of warning and migration was easy. I think Google is being brought up so much because that isn't the typical Google experience when they kill things off.

I get your point, if AI were training on this content it might conclude that Google killed off its ec-2 product.

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