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Re: *@gmail.com

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Post by ethbr1 »

jeroenhd wrote: post #121
ethbr1 wrote: post #100

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It does lead to people sending mail to the wrong address, from personal experience since Gmail was in beta. I've gotten sensitive emails and account signups with different dots for years. But the cause of that appears to be user error -- people thinking they own email addresses that are not actually theirs.

That's the point I think, the dots aren't causing any issues here, some people just assume their account is f.m.lastname@gmail.com and many of them are too stubborn to accept that it's not. They never had an email address with or without dots that's made up of the same letters as your email address. Their email address is probably very different (maybe they forgot to add a number, or a middle initial, or typed Gmail…

Exactly. The dots are useful from a UX perspective, as it makes "incorrectly addressed" email more obvious.

I've spent way too much time thinking about this.

Well, specifically about the kind of person who would use an email address they don't own to (a) buy a house, (b) apply for a FL sheriff's job, (c) conduct financial transactions, etc. (all actual examples I've received).

You think you have a bead on how ignorant people are, and then you realize there's a long tail you weren't aware of...

Re: *@gmail.com

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Post by LastTrain »

WithinReason wrote: post #12
franze wrote: post #5

Address not found Your message wasn't delivered to \*@gmail.com because the address couldn't be found, or is unable to receive mail. LEARN MORE The response was: 550 5.1.1 The email account that you tried to reach does not exist. Please try double-checking the recipient's email address for typos or unnecessary spaces. Learn more at https://support.google.com/mail/?p=NoSuchUser f15-20020a05651201cf00b00500994b137asor3…

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Re: *@gmail.com

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Post by _notreallyme_ »

thesuperbigfrog wrote: post #136
_notreallyme_ wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At amazon in 2010, someone sent an email to everyone on the "all" mailing list to ask if anyone had seen it. A reply-all storm ensued, and despite several people asking to stop hitting the reply-all button, it continued for several days. The management had to chime in and sometimes threatened people with punishment if they continued participating to the reply-all storm. If you ignored the conversation you may not hav…

>> If you ignored the conversation you may not have seen it, but most reply-all storm ended up with someone saying something the line of "we don't care about your wallet". Not quite. It started with a meeting invite that was accidentally sent to everyone. The meeting was for the Amazon Wallet team (I think they did something with payments, etc.) for whatever work they were doing at the time. Most people ignored the m…

Ah, thank you for more context.

I arrived a few months after that, so someone tried to explain to me but either my memory is wrong or the explanation was flawed.

Re: *@gmail.com

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Post by LastTrain »

nmeofthestate wrote: post #86
rcarmo wrote: post #3

This is a great reminder that Gmail ignores dots on the left side of the @ symbol, which means I am constantly getting e-mail for other people. The “+” tagging was a great idea, but the fact that incorrect address matching has become a “feature” (and not fixed over decades) plus constant spates of spam has made me believe there’s nobody left at the helm who actually understands e-mail. I’ve kept my Gmail addresses fo…

> This is a great reminder that Gmail ignores dots on the left side of the @ symbol, which means I am constantly getting e-mail for other people. Genuinely confused - which other people? There are no other people with your Gmail address but added/removed '.' characters. What you're seeing is people sending emails to the wrong email address - nothing to do with presence or absence of '.' characters. Allowing addresses…

Because third party sites treat them as different - so everyone that signs up for Hulu with some combination of my email address but with dots, the confirmation goes to me. I have an early, small gmail name and am inundated with these kinds of emails and it is directly attributable to this.

Re: *@gmail.com

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Post by gadders »

eru wrote: post #76
gadders wrote: post #36

I love a good reply-all email storm. I remember a Lotus Notes-based on in a bank I worked at the early 90's. I think it only stopped when the Chief of Staff did a reply-all with "The next person to reply-all to these emails is sacked."

Sounds like an invitation to find a PC accidentally left unlocked and sending a joke reply. (Don't do this in real life, please.)

I was like the meme of the guy slapping the big red button trying to stop myself from replying-all with "OK."

Re: *@gmail.com

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Post by InsomniacL »

Fuzzwah wrote: post #132
InsomniacL wrote: post #111

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They are two different addresses, think of the second as an alias to the first. Google creates an alias for every possible combination of dotted email address to your primary. If you don't want to use the feature, you don't have to. Lots of people find it extremely useful. https://support.google.com/mail/answer/7436150?hl=en#zippy=%... > if your email is johnsmith@gmail.com, you own all dotted versions of your addres…

It wasn't always that way on gmail. I have a long-lived account and someone else has in the past had a working address of the same words without the dot but always used the @googlemail.com address. Note: my bit of research into this taught me that the googlemail.com domain is used by Gmail users in Germany, Russia, and Poland where the Gmail trademark was already taken 1. In each case, Google was forced to use “googl…

Gmail addresses ending in @gmail.com and @googlemail.com are the same e-mail address and do not represent two different accounts.

Re: *@gmail.com

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Post by dinkleberg »

nmeofthestate wrote: post #86
rcarmo wrote: post #3

This is a great reminder that Gmail ignores dots on the left side of the @ symbol, which means I am constantly getting e-mail for other people. The “+” tagging was a great idea, but the fact that incorrect address matching has become a “feature” (and not fixed over decades) plus constant spates of spam has made me believe there’s nobody left at the helm who actually understands e-mail. I’ve kept my Gmail addresses fo…

> This is a great reminder that Gmail ignores dots on the left side of the @ symbol, which means I am constantly getting e-mail for other people. Genuinely confused - which other people? There are no other people with your Gmail address but added/removed '.' characters. What you're seeing is people sending emails to the wrong email address - nothing to do with presence or absence of '.' characters. Allowing addresses…

I’ve got firstname.lastname@gmail.com and apparently someone with my same name believes they have the address with no dot, as they keep signing up for services like Facebook with it and sharing it with their friends who email me.

It is quite the odd situation. I reply to their friends saying they have the wrong email, but they don’t seem to believe me. And they keep signing up for things despite presumably never being able to actually access many of these services that require email verification.

My guess is it is someone not very computer literate. But it is always amusing.

Re: *@gmail.com

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Post by neongodzilla »

mabbo wrote: post #49

"If everyone would just stop replying, this would end! Why are you all still hitting reply all?!" -latest reply all on every reply-all storm. In my early days at Amazon, around 2012-2015, this would happen frequently enough [0]. I pretty quickly learned the best thing to do was to ignore the conversation and never think about it again rather than try to 'help'. [0] - too many new products and orgs set up new mailing…

This shit still happens with regularity.
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