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How to find time to learn after work (2017)

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Re: How to find time to learn after work (2017)

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Post by Zababa »

presentinmoment wrote: post #2

I prefer to be present in the moment. I'm slowly leaving my phone behind and just trying to be present. Actually experience reality and not get my brain busy all the time. Because of that I'd say, just don't try to be productive at all times. That "downtime" you're trying to cram another podcast into is actually necessary.

I get your point, but being present in the subway or the bus is worthless for me. When walking it's different, especially if there's some nature and not too many people nearby.

Re: How to find time to learn after work (2017)

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Post by teddyh »

blogornot wrote: post #133
teddyh wrote: post #113

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Is this “help” meant only to be available to kids with rich parents, as it is now? Or is the school at fault for not being willing, or able, to teach all kids to an acceptable degree?

What is your obsession with correlating good parenting with generational wealth? You can be poor, have relatively uneducated parents and still be taught by them. My father died when I was five. My mother never finished high school and worked in a medical factory. She still found an hour to try an teach me and help me learn (even when I was beyond her upper skill limit).

When “generational wealth” correlates directly with “availble hours to spend with the kids”, then it matters a great deal. It’s great for you that your parents did not have to work every waking hour to afford food and living space, but many are not as lucky.

Re: How to find time to learn after work (2017)

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Post by teddyh »

thrwawewa77777 wrote: post #135
teddyh wrote: post #115

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If parents “help” kids with homework, the teacher will get a misleading view of what the kid has learned and is capable of. Other kids, lacking this “help”, will get worse grades. If you want to argue that the teacher understands that parents are helping their kids with the homework, then: 1. Why aren’t teachers sending study aids, pedagogical material, etc. to the parents , on order to aid in the further education o…

You're dying on a very strange hill. Yes, children that have active and engaged parents have an advantage over those who do not. "Cheating" implies that the parents are doing the homework for the child without the child's involvement. Of course, that's not what is happening, and I'm sure you know that. I'm sure you also know that not all school districts, teachers, and children are equal. Some are funded better than…

> You're dying on a very strange hill.

Please don’t do that here.

> children that have active and engaged parents have an advantage over those who do not.

You’re not answering my questions, or responding to my summary. Either teachers are aware of this – in which case teachers should logically help the parents, not arbitrarily assigning homework to kids – or teachers are unaware, in which case parents helping kids is skewing teachers’ perceptions of the kids’ abilities – i.e. cheating. I made the charitable assumption that teachers are acting reasonably based on what they know.

> I won't take a pencil and start solving the problems for them.

But this is what the stereotypical, commonly depicted, behavior is. It may not be universal, but I am sure it is not uncommon.

Re: How to find time to learn after work (2017)

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Post by sanderjd »

BaseballPhysics wrote: post #74
sanderjd wrote: post #64

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I think this is sort of like unlimited vacation time policies: if you really want people to take advantage of it because you really believe in its value, you actually have to constantly nudge many, maybe most, people to do it. In the case of training / education, a good solution may be to provide more structure. Get a group of people to sign up for an actual structured class (or run one yourself), and set the expecta…

Another commenter also made a very good point: you've gotta let off the gas a bit. If everyone is going flat out, the surrounding pressures will cause people to prioritize being responsive to those pressures. But that requires a fundamental change in organizational productivity culture and means this kind of policy probably needs to be implemented -- and critically, measured -- at the corporate level so people collec…

Yep, and this is another way in which it reminds me of vacation policies. People have trouble imagining when they'll be able to take time off when the foot is always on the gas. So even if managers are truly bought in to the idea that time off is actually critical to a productive workforce (and I think most leadership I've worked for actually does buy this), it's still easy to create an environment where that doesn't happen.

Re: How to find time to learn after work (2017)

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Post by yoyohello13 »

DoingIsLearning wrote: post #32
xattt wrote: post #23

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Waking up early works but only if your kids don't have a variable time range, say 5:30 - 7:00, when they get up :)

Haha First thing I thought when I read this. Waking up early to have some free focus time is what I _used_ to do. Now I can sometimes squeeze some late nights but not as productive cause I am half dead by then.

Once they become teenagers, you'll have plenty of time in the morning before they wake.

Re: How to find time to learn after work (2017)

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Post by eddd-ddde »

avocabros wrote: post #19
FirmwareBurner wrote: post #3

>"For example, I’m commuting every day 2×45 minutes to my workplace and back home. I need 5 minutes to get to the train station with my bike, 10 minutes to wait for the (connecting) trains, 25 minutes actually on the trains, 5 minutes to get from the train to my working place" There's a big one right there. Time lost due to commute times are actually much longer than the door-to-door time. It's not just the 90 min th…

WFH is one solution, but it's not free in terms of collaboration costs. There's a reason no one thinks college is better remote, for example. Sure, it's fine for some jobs but it's not super obvious that it's a net positive for output. People can also live closer to work, or use other methods (biking, running, etc.) to combine exercise + commute. Many studies have indicate that people overestimate the happiness of a…

I for sure believe college is better remote, during lectures I feel like a hostage: forced to hear stuff i don't care about or already know, forces to hear it four times so the people that didn't get can try again, forced to hear it yet again the next four days, forced to commute someplace so they can grade me based on my "presence", forced to waste focus and time working assignments I know aren't worth a thing in the real life.

Re: How to find time to learn after work (2017)

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Post by consoomer »

jebarker wrote: post #95
consoomer wrote: post #63

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Here's mine: Wake up at 4AM. Stretch Achilles (gets stiff when I sleep), make a coffee and check emails/prep for the day in my notebook. From 4:20 to 5AM I run 5K and then shower. From about 5AM to 7AM I work on my own stuff/learn/whatever. At 7AM I wake up the wife and help get kids ready for school. I walk with the kids to school at 8AM. From 8:30 to 3PM I work on my stuff and have lunch somewhere in there. I walk…

Are you self-employed?

I am, but that's irrelevant. I became self employed because of my lifestyle. I don't think I ever could have done it otherwise.

Re: How to find time to learn after work (2017)

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Post by DoingIsLearning »

yoyohello13 wrote: post #146
DoingIsLearning wrote: post #32

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Haha First thing I thought when I read this. Waking up early to have some free focus time is what I _used_ to do. Now I can sometimes squeeze some late nights but not as productive cause I am half dead by then.

Once they become teenagers, you'll have plenty of time in the morning before they wake.

That's my mistake now, I keep making new ones. :)

Re: How to find time to learn after work (2017)

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Post by nerdchum »

I don't think you're supposed to.

What's supposed to happen is you learn on the job but that rarely happens because unless you graduated from a top 10 school you're typically hired to do drudgery that exists due to poor tech management.

So if you are actually a normal person in tech with things going on in your life you will inevitably fall behind.

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