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New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting

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Re: New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting

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I took an Uber in a Tesla (the small flat one) recently. I could not believe the squeaking. Every Tesla driver I talk to loves theirs though. I hope the Cybertruck is much better built.

Squeaking? That's usually a signal the brakes need replacement.

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The weirdest part of this to me is the customer. You knew the manufacturer had a reputation of forgetting hard to check parts ... and you still bought one. What else could it be missing that you can't practically check for? Still I guess at least it's good to see Tesla living up to the reputation for American cars to be generally shit build quality. I feel like they're going a bit overboard on that factor though.

It's a status/whatever symbol, build quality doesn't really matter. I've a friend that drives a Model 3 and said "it's just like driving a BMW" and of course he has never driven a BMW.

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In previous employment (as a software engineer), I've been told to do this too - mainly around inventions we were trying to patent. The reason is slightly less nefarious than you might think - for example, someone might casually say that some aspect of their patent is "obvious" but they're saying that as an expert in their field who may have spent months or years thinking about the problem and alternative solutions.…

I don't think these two scenarios are the same.

I agree, and was originally going to downvote the parent comment for the same reason, but then realized I think they were replying to this more general point in the GP's post:

> "Do this only orally" is always to hide evidence from a future court discovery.

That is, I've followed enough court cases and news reports to have seen things taken egregiously out of context to agree there could be valid reasons to limit discoverable communications (though not in Tesla's specific case), especially because so few people seem to argue in good faith anymore. For example, lots of times in long email or slack threads people throw out ideas, even if they're not particularly well thought out, because that's part of what being in an open, healthy organization entails. And then I've seen these communications presented as some sort of official corporate position instead of brainstorming.

Re: New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting

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Relatively new for such large parts, and an innovation by Tesla, although other manufacturers are picking the idea up too.

Doesn't that mean it's not cost effective to repair in case of accidents? Small bump - got to dismantle the whole car and replace half of it.

So it's cheaper to build and they get to sell more cars?

Re: New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting

#146

Sounds like not much has changed since 2015. A good friend ordered a new Model S in 2015. It arrived with a "squeak" that turned out to be due to missing welds in structural components of the chassis. They wanted him to sign an NDA to get a replacement vehicle (which he refused to do, both on principle, and because he'd talked to friends about it already). So he was forced to keep his vehicle, which was then repaired…

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My bet is that becomes a scenerio where the party with the most money for lawyers wins. If it was me, I would have almost no money for lawyers.

Having recently dealt with this very situation. Lawyers are honestly not __that__ expensive for these disputes and NDA’s are largely unenforceable.

How expensive is not that expensive, out of curiosity?

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Is it true that if a business states that “calls may be recorded” then no matter where you live, it’s legal to record the call as well.

Yes. The most aggressive consent requirement for recording is 'two-party' consent, where the both people on the call need to be aware it's being recorded. If you say "this is/may be(ing) recorded" then both parties are aware.

If you tell a company calling that you might also be recording I found they like to end the call fast. Funny how it’s okay if they do it and hold all the evidence…

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Nothing as reliable as a Honda Civic or Toyota Prius.

Some people love to claim that electric cars will be more reliable due to mechanical simplicity. And yet somehow the highly complex Prius is still far more reliable and durable than any Tesla. It turns out that simplicity doesn't help if your engineers and assembly workers are incompetent and badly managed.

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Re: New images and video confirm Austin-made Tesla model Y has cracked front casting

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This is a slam-dunk for the typical American lemon law. The owner of the car should go out and find a lemon law lawyer. When I had to work with one I didn't have to pay a thing. (I had a Subaru where the GPS / Stereo would reboot while I drove and loose its settings. After a bunch of replacements, the car still had the problem. I had to catch it on video, though. Subaru ended up declaring the car a lemon after trying…

> Every time I take it in, they never put the car back together and I have to take it back.

What does that mean? The car is in 5 pieces? Take it back unfixed? What do you do then to fix it?

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