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90% of “eco-friendly” paper straws contain traces of toxic forever chemicals

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Which brands? Cant get at the supplementary materials. I bought a set of those IKEA bamboo straws, said to be 100% natural, and indeed I don't see why pfas would be needed on those; solid bamboo.

Bamboo also has its issues [0]. I think mainly because it is kept in shape by bad stuff. Could be that your straws are really 100% bamboo, but some products are something like ground bamboo in some polymer.

[0] https://www.europarl.europa.eu/doceo/document/E-9-2020-00064...

Re: 90% of “eco-friendly” paper straws contain traces of toxic forever chemicals

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post #135

But so does our drinking water afaik. The real news is that > PFAS are sometimes used as a water-resistant coating [on "paper" straws] Surprised Pikachu that paper isn't water resistent (though then why do they melt in your mouth? Are those straws the pure paper variant?). What we need is for people to be able to reuse the things. Return the reusable straw to any McDonald's worldwide for dishwashing and reuse, for ex…

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post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When drinking particularly acid drinks, juice, soda, etc., a straw significantly reduces the amount of erosion of your teeth.

Any link/source? Not that I don’t believe you just curious as it seems plausible but never chances across support for it

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Re: 90% of “eco-friendly” paper straws contain traces of toxic forever chemicals

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This smells like astroturfing in favor of plastic. The fact that something contains "traces" of PFAS is not that much of a revelation. Unfortunately, thanks to tragically insufficient environmental regulation, PFAS have gotten everywhere nowadays, so most naturally sourced ingredients will contain traces of PFAS.

It is important to know how much PFAS they contain, whether those amounts are higher than the wood feedstock (i.e., are PFAS being added), whether the amounts are medically relevant, and whether the amounts are more than the alternative. (And lets not kid ourselves, stainless steel straws are not a viable alternative.)

Re: 90% of “eco-friendly” paper straws contain traces of toxic forever chemicals

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This smells like astroturfing in favor of plastic. The fact that something contains "traces" of PFAS is not that much of a revelation. Unfortunately, thanks to tragically insufficient environmental regulation, PFAS have gotten everywhere nowadays, so most naturally sourced ingredients will contain traces of PFAS. It is important to know how much PFAS they contain, whether those amounts are higher than the wood feedst…

Maybe they're not a complete replacement in all cases, but for getting an iced latte from the local coffee shop, the metal straws are just fine. There are also reusable plastic ones.

Re: 90% of “eco-friendly” paper straws contain traces of toxic forever chemicals

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post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Straws require ridiculously small amounts of raw materials though, if you choose a material that increases the steel price by $1000/ton, then that adds a single extra cent to the costs of a 10g metal straw which then retails for a dollar a piece.

So you're saying you can cut it out and increase profit by a percentage point? That's pretty huge. I recall finance going ballistic on my division at one point because our profit margin dropped by a tenth of a percentage point (and yet was still well above fifty)

99.999% of corporations are way too wasteful to be complaining about a tenth of a percent on 50%+ margin.

Think of the savings of slashing that finance department staff :)

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